Woot! Danica Patrick Nabs Pole Position (????) In Daytona 500!!!

[cadaverdog]

Pissed off? I could give a fuck what people like...

Is that from the trollMod manifesto?

[LoungeMachine]

Is that from the trollMod manifesto?

For fucks sake can you stfu and give it a rest for ONE fucking thread with that shit?



Or do you really need to whine about mods here EVERY FUCKING THREAD?

If only you cared this much about getting a job.....

[Nitro Express]

Yeah well, they don't come to races to have stock cars land in their laps...

Some come to watch stock cars land in the laps of others.

[ashstralia]

street circuits are a lot more interesting than a constant left hand turn.

this is why F1 and our V8 supercar series is more of a spectacle. nissan and mercedes have entered the comp here this year; next weekend's clipsal 500 will be compelling viewing. racing 10/10ths through the streets of adelaide in 700hp tintops.

if you're a fan of motorsport, try and find it (or a replay) on your local tv


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[chefcraig]

street circuits are a lot more interesting than a constant left hand turn.

this is why F1 and our V8 supercar series is more of a spectacle. nissan and mercedes have entered the comp here this year; next weekend's clipsal 500 will be compelling viewing. racing 10/10ths through the streets of adelaide in 700hp tintops.

if you're a fan of motorsport, try and find it (or a replay) on your local tv

The biggest issue involving the supercars here in the states isn't the competition, which appears to be terrific. It has more to do with the appallingly poor coverage of what is going on. Apparently, there isn't much of a budget for televising these events, which means only a handful of cameras cover things, leading to howlingly awful cuts from the front to the back of the pack, missed passes for the lead and virtually zero replays of anything. And the announcers certainly do not help matters, more often than not getting involved in a discussion that has little (if anything) to do with the action they are supposed to be describing.

Hell, even the log-heads at F-1 figured this out and brought in the pros from SPEED TV to handle things. At the moment, Formula One racing is the best covered racing sport there is, while NASCAR seems to be relegated to an awkward NFL-like broadcast scheme that is not only off-putting at times, yet it is highly insulting to both the fans and the subject at hand.

[ZahZoo]

That race absolutely sucked....

More or less yeah... But it somewhat beat the tandum crap we've had the last couple of years.

If they can figure out an aero adjustment that will allow more side by side drafting or less disruption then I think good racing could resume at Daytona & Talledegga.

[chefcraig]

The thing is that currently, the only place to run is the outside lane. Drop low, and the laws of physics and inertia demand that you are forced to go slower.

Also, the front and rear bumpers of the new cars are now all different, so any normal form of drafting has been chucked straight out of the window. No one wants to see a return to the 2 car jitterbug racing from the past few seasons, but crap, this event was tedious to watch. Even seeing a Lionel train set run around your Christmas tree would be more riveting.

Even stranger, NASCAR has introduced a bigger rear wing to increase down-force at non-super speedways. Which means that the races from Phoenix, Las Vegas, LA and Kansas should become even more ponderous. Seriously, if the name of each track wasn't posted on the grandstands, could you conceivably tell them apart?

[Nickdfresh]

Some come to watch stock cars land in the laps of others.

Much like football, sitting home and watching it on TV is now much better for that!

[cadaverdog]

Looks like we are back to freight train, single file racing, where no one car has the power to pass another. This is progress? Probably the biggest racing snore-fest I've seen in years. Too bad it wasn't a night race, I could have gone to bed early...then again, I would have missed the Walking Dead and Bar Rescue.

It was better than the two car pack racing that's gone on for the last couple years. That was boring.

[cadaverdog]

The thing is that currently, the only place to run is the outside lane. Drop low, and the laws of physics and inertia demand that you are forced to go slower.

Also, the front and rear bumpers of the new cars are now all different, so any normal form of drafting has been chucked straight out of the window. No one wants to see a return to the 2 car jitterbug racing from the past few seasons, but crap, this event was tedious to watch. Even seeing a Lionel train set run around your Christmas tree would be more riveting.

Even stranger, NASCAR has introduced a bigger rear wing to increase down-force at non-super speedways. Which means that the races from Phoenix, Las Vegas, LA and Kansas should become even more ponderous. Seriously, if the name of each track wasn't posted on the grandstands, could you conceivably tell them apart?

They were talking about raising the cars up to increase competition but after this it won't happen.

[cadaverdog]

For fucks sake can you stfu and give it a rest for ONE fucking thread with that shit?



Or do you really need to whine about mods here EVERY FUCKING THREAD?

If only you cared this much about getting a job.....

I see you're here to talk about Nascar. Good post.

[chefcraig]

They were talking about raising the cars up to increase competition but after this it won't happen.

Remember around five years ago when the crews would set up the cars to virtually run sideways down the straights like crabs in order to deal with the aero package and negotiate the turns? I wonder how long things will go on (probably about two weeks) until we see a return to that baloney.

Even better, I can't wait for the hype and fascination about this Gen 6 car to wear off, and Kyle Busch starts telling anyone who'll listen that in fact, the thing's a turd and quite frankly, sucks.

"Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" my ass.

[cadaverdog]

Remember around five years ago when the crews would set up the cars to virtually run sideways down the straights like crabs in order to deal with the aero package and negotiate the turns? I wonder how long things will go on (probably about two weeks) until we see a return to that baloney.

Even better, I can't wait for the hype and fascination about this Gen 6 car to wear off, and Kyle Busch starts telling anyone who'll listen that in fact, the thing's a turd and quite frankly, sucks.

"Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" my ass.

At least the manufacturers are making a little effort to make cars that look somewhat like the ones they run in Nascar. The new Chevy looks like something that might catch on.

[chefcraig]

To me, it's just to early to tell. A restrictor plated race is no guarantee or barometer of what can play out over an inexcusably long season with several different sized (but mostly anonymous) featured tracks. Having the best aero package means little at destruction derby tracks like Bristol, Martinsville and even Richmond, so the real proof will come down not to a manufacturer's ability to replicate a show room model, but as to how fast the car is and precisely who is driving the damned thing. And at this point, it appears that even you or I could get behind the wheel and do a reasonable job. And if we wreck? Hell son, even Stewart and Harvick can manage that.

Seriously, Jeff Gordon gets a Twinkie wrapper on the front of his car, and the whole thing is so fragile that it overheats and sends him to the rear of the pack for the majority of the race? Sort of sends the message that a potential car buyer shouldn't think about driving a Chevy unless the weather is perfect, ya know?

[envy_me]

I have seen some stuff from Monza. But never Nascar.
Is that the same thing?