Bob Costas Is A Jerk

[Terry]

Bob Costas strikes me as someone who, as a kid, was probably picked last everytime teams were chosen...for whatever sport...if he was even picked at all.
He probably wasn't able to run, throw or catch anything, so he grew up to become someone who comments on how well (or not) someone ELSE is playing any given sport.
Fuck him.
Fuck Fran Tarkenton too, while I'm at it (he knows what he did).

[Satan]

[DLR Bridge]

I'll tell you something else. If we are so concerned about offending the Native Americans i'm sure they would rather have their land back than have us playing mascot police.

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the Seinfeld when George trashes Jerry's car, then buys him a cup of coffee as an apology.

George- "I just wanted to say I'm sorry"
Jerry- "Ehh, cup of coffee should cover it" (much sarcasm)


Native Americans are like, "we're victims of your manifest destiny, and now your gonna make it aaaall better by going after team names? Golly. Thanks for that!"

[Angel]

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the Seinfeld when George trashes Jerry's car, then buys him a cup of coffee as an apology.

George- "I just wanted to say I'm sorry"
Jerry- "Ehh, cup of coffee should cover it" (much sarcasm)


Native Americans are like, "we're victims of your manifest destiny, and now your gonna make it aaaall better by going after team names? Golly. Thanks for that!"

True. Although many are bothered by those names all the same.

[ELVIS]

Although many are bothered by those names all the same.

And most are not...

It's a non-issue and an indication of how easily the sheep are led away from matters of real significance...

[Angel]

And most are not...

It's a non-issue and an indication of how easily the sheep are led away from matters of real significance...

Re-naming is a very important piece of de-colonization. And for First Nations people it is not a non-issue. There are more pressing matters, but that doesn't mean that many aren't offended by the racial terms...

You being the racist prick you are I'm not surprised you don't "get it".

[DLR Bridge]

If I were native American, I'd actually be more offended by this...
Corporate American fat cat shoes emblazoned with the look of the traditional moccasin. Not cool.

[twonabomber]

It's not without precedent in Washington DC.... somebody thought the name "Bullets" was offensive for an NBA team, so they changed that to the "Wizards" (which ironically could be just as offensive, if the Wizards wore pointy white hoods instead of pointy hats)

That would have been ownership:

In 1995, owner Abe Pollin announced he was changing the team's name because Bullets had acquired violent overtones that had made him increasingly uncomfortable over the years, particularly given the high homicide and crime rate in the early 1990s in Washington, D.C. The final straw was the assassination of his longtime friend, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

On May 15, 1997, the Bullets officially became the Washington Wizards. The change generated some controversy because Washington is a predominantly African-American city and Wizard is a rank in the Ku Klux Klan

[Angel]

If I were native American, I'd actually be more offended by this...
Corporate American fat cat shoes emblazoned with the look of the traditional moccasin. Not cool.

Lol, I have a friend that's a clothing designer, I'll have to ask her about that.

Up here, our First Peoples have much bigger fish to fry...

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-faces-a-crisis-on-aboriginal-reserves-un-investigator-1.1497612

[ELVIS]

that doesn't mean that many aren't offended by the racial terms...

You being the racist prick you are I'm not surprised you don't "get it".

The only people "offended" are the overly sensitive white sheeple, like yourself...

[ELVIS]

No Consensus Among Indians on 'Redskins' Name

AP

The name of a certain pro football team in Washington, D.C., has inspired protests, hearings, editorials, lawsuits, letters from Congress, even a presidential nudge. Yet behind the headlines, it's unclear how many Native Americans think "Redskins" is a racial slur.

Perhaps this uncertainty shouldn't matter — because the word has an undeniably racist history, or because the team says it uses the word with respect, or because in a truly decent society, some would argue, what hurts a few should be avoided by all.

But the thoughts and beliefs of native people are the basis of the debate over changing the team name. And looking across the breadth of Indian Country — with 2 million Indians enrolled in 566 federally recognized tribes, plus another 3.2 million who tell the Census they are Indian — it's difficult to tell how many are opposed to the name.

The controversy has peaked in the last few days. President Barack Obama said Saturday he would consider getting rid of the name if he owned the team, and the NFL took the unprecedented step Monday of promising to meet with the Oneida Indian Nation, which is waging a national ad campaign against the league.

What gets far less attention, though, is this:

There are Native American schools that call their teams Redskins. The term is used affectionately by some natives, similar to the way the N-word is used by some African-Americans. In the only recent poll to ask native people about the subject, 90 percent of respondents did not consider the term offensive, although many question the cultural credentials of the respondents.

All of which underscores the oft-overlooked diversity within Indian Country.

"Marginalized communities are too often treated monolithically," said Carter Meland, a professor of American Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota.

"Stories on the mascot issue always end up exploring whether it is right or it is wrong, respectful or disrespectful," said Meland, an Ojibwe Indian.

He believes Indian mascots are disrespectful, but said: "It would be interesting to get a sense of the diversity of opinion within a native community."

Those communities vary widely.

Tommy Yazzie, superintendent of the Red Mesa school district on the Navajo Nation reservation, grew up when Navajo children were forced into boarding schools to disconnect them from their culture. Some were punished for speaking their native language. Today, he sees environmental issues as the biggest threat to his people.

The high school football team in his district is the Red Mesa Redskins.

"We just don't think that (name) is an issue," Yazzie said. "There are more important things like busing our kids to school, the water settlement, the land quality, the air that surrounds us. Those are issues we can take sides on."

"Society, they think it's more derogatory because of the recent discussions," Yazzie said. "In its pure form, a lot of Native American men, you go into the sweat lodge with what you've got — your skin. I don't see it as derogatory."

Neither does Eunice Davidson, a Dakota Sioux who lives on the Spirit Lake reservation in North Dakota. "It more or less shows that they approve of our history," she said.

[Angel]

The only people "offended" are the overly sensitive white sheeple, like yourself...

That's where you're wrong. I'm not offended by it as it is not a slur against my race. I know many that are offended though...none of them white...

[ELVIS]

Yeah right...

[fryingdutchman]

The red skin is a result of the rampant alcoholism.

(Just felt like piling on a stereotype bandwagon for a second....I now return you to regular programming)

[fryingdutchman]

When I was a kid there was a store on the Atlantic City boardwalk called "Teepee Town" that I used to frequent.

They carried all sorts of items like the Minnetonka moccasins and feathered headdresses. They also had quite a selection of toy weapons (tomahawks and such)...because as we all know, Native Americans are nothing but grunting savages who were hell bent on scalping the white man. They even had a "cigar store Indian" right at the front door.

I see now that my patronage was doing nothing but fueling the fires of racism and negative stereotypes of Native Americans.

I'm so ashamed..having contributed to this kind of exploitation.



If that store were still around today, I would be first in line outside with a protest sign demanding that the name be changed to "Native American Mercantile."

What a crazy world....but 30 years ago people had more legitimate issues to worry about. I hope they change the name to the "Washington Honkies" so I can be an enraged white guy.