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[POJO_Risin]

No...the post by longdongsilver...

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Is Michigan planning on firing Amaker any time soon?

Nope, not that I heard of but even he as recoginzed the need for some progress.

He did come in after the Fab 5 mess was just getting cleaned up.

Be nice to be worth a shit in hoop again.

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
No...the post by longdongsilver...

Fucking Thunder ... same shit different day.

Follows me around like fucking Katy.

He just posted his usual "where can I get some coke" thread in main again.

He's an asshole, 20 different names, old news as you say.

[POJO_Risin]

Any idea who that is...

[POJO_Risin]

He loves you dude...gotta respect that...lmfao...

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
Any idea who that is...

Joe Thunder.

Resident retard.

[ALinChainz]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
He loves you dude...gotta respect that...lmfao...

He is a big fan.

I keep telling him I'm hetero ... doesn't stop him.

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...we've already signed the four already mentioned...and are inches away from signing Thaddeus young...a top 10 pick in '06...

which would give OSU 3 in the top 10...and 5 in the top 35....

and are already being called...the "Thad Five," because some recruiting experts think it will be a better class than Michigan's FAB FOUR...

there's a long way between now and '06 though...but damn...I can't believe I'm going to have a college hoop team to root for again...after what...15 years of waiting?

[POJO_Risin]

And...more great news on the football front...

1. The NCAA has nothing on the fucking Bucks...so no probation is in order because the liar fucking Clarett refused to talk to them...

2. They signed one of the top 3 QB's in Antonio Henton...and the nation's #1 rated RB...Chris Wells...

yeah...things be looking up for the Buckeyes...and heaven help all of the fucking Big 11...

[POJO_Risin]

Updated: Aug. 25, 2005, 11:07 PM ET
Ohio State says it shouldn't be liableAssociated Press


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State argued Thursday that it shouldn't be held liable for some NCAA rules violations because former men's basketball coach Jim O'Brien made it impossible for athletic administrators to know about them.

The university issued its formal response to the NCAA and conceded to the nine violations, seven in the men's basketball program and one each for the women's basketball and football teams.

Among the most serious charges, the NCAA said administrators and compliance officials should have known about transgressions by O'Brien and one of his assistants, Paul Biancardi.

The school shifted responsibility to O'Brien.

"That the men's basketball staff intentionally concealed material facts from athletics and compliance administrators and disregarded specific instructions from the compliance office should not be deemed as evidence of a lack of appropriate monitoring by the institution," the response states.

Ohio State said the men's basketball team would have two fewer scholarships than the NCAA maximum of 13 this season. The school previously fired O'Brien and prevented its men's basketball team from playing in a postseason tournament last season -- even though no players or coaches involved in any of the alleged violations were still affiliated with the university.

"The university believes that its corrective measures and self-imposed punitive actions presented herein, and any subsequent actions taken by the university, should be recognized and accepted by the NCAA as necessary, appropriate and sufficient," the response reads.

The university sent the 225-page document, along with about 1,500 pages of evidence and exhibits, to the NCAA offices in Indianapolis by overnight courier Wednesday, the day before it was due.

O'Brien's attorney, Joseph Murray, disputed the university's claims.

"Unlike Ohio State, Jim O'Brien doesn't need 2,000 pages to explain why he didn't do anything wrong," Murray said.

Biancardi has denied any wrongdoing.

The NCAA will collect information and then hold a hearing Dec. 9 or 10 to decide if Ohio State's self-imposed penalties are sufficient.

NCAA spokesman Kent Barrett said the organization doesn't comment on pending enforcement actions.

Ohio State fired O'Brien in June 2004 after he admitted he arranged a $6,700 payment in 1999 to the family of a recruit, Aleksandar Radojevic. O'Brien has sued Ohio State for improperly firing him, saying he didn't violate NCAA recruiting rules because Radojevic had already been ruled ineligible to play for the Buckeyes.

O'Brien repeated that claim in a response his lawyer filed with the NCAA this week, saying Radojevic was considered a professional athlete at the time the loan was made to assist his family in war-torn Kosovo.

The NCAA violations also included a booster who helped another basketball player with his schoolwork and gave him money.

Kathleen Salyers, who claims she housed Boban Savovic, has said she persuaded professors at Biancardi's request to change Savovic's failing grades so he would remain eligible to play.

She declined to comment on Ohio State's response, but released a statement on her Web site saying she regretted having had a role in the violations. She said she was involved as a "direct result of others whom were in a position of trust and authority. It was their breach of the trust and authority that they were given that has brought us here today."

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith sent letters Wednesday to Salyers and three other boosters who had contact with Savovic and Radojevic, banning them from doing anything on behalf of the school or its athletes.

"Your violations have caused significant embarrassment to the university and continue to cause disruption to the men's basketball program," Smith wrote to Salyers, taking a similar tone with the others.

The NCAA accused both O'Brien and Biancardi -- now the head coach at Wright State -- of failing "to monitor the conduct and administration" of the basketball program from July 1998 to May 2002.

"'Failure to monitor' would constitute a complete omission in the institution's responsibilities. That did not happen here," Ohio State's response states.

"The university's efforts, however, were met with deception and concealment by the men's basketball staff."

The one football violation involved quarterback Troy Smith's acceptance of around $500 from former OSU booster Robert Q. Baker in May 2004. Smith was suspended from the Alamo Bowl in December and from this season's opener on Sept. 3 against Miami (Ohio).

Ohio State also confirmed the NCAA's finding that a Columbus orthodontist provided free and discounted services to women's basketball players. The school said the orthodontist disputed some of the details of the allegation, so Ohio State officials will investigate further and update the NCAA on their findings.

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Buckeyes hope to give speedy Ginn more touchesBy Pat Forde
ESPN.com


Hang around locker rooms long enough and you can develop a sort of jock ESP -- an indefinable ability to identify a superstar athlete just from the way he carries himself. At Ohio State, the jock ESP activated when Ted Ginn hit campus.

"As you watched him walk around, you could tell he has an unbelievable amount of athletic talent," center Nick Mangold said. "You see him walking in the locker room -- I don't know what it is, a look, a walking style -- you could tell that guy was something special."

Said coach Jim Tressel: "He has a humble way to have presence. I'm not sure he touches the ground when he walks."

Ginn laughs at those descriptions, but says he did arrive in Columbus last year intent on making an impression.



Ohio State's Ted Ginn will be even more dangerous this season as he's certain to get more touches."I just wanted to come in and show guys that I might be small, but I can play ball," the 6-foot, 175-pounder said. "I walked in with confidence. I didn't walk in like a freshman, thinking I'd be redshirted."

But this was more than just walking the walk. If Mangold thought Teddy Ballgame looked good strolling around the locker room, wait until he saw him run on a football field.

As a freshman, Ginn got the ball 59 times and transported it to the end zone on eight of those occasions -- roughly one touchdown for every seven touches. For some perspective, consider that when Barry Sanders was setting the I-A season record of 39 touchdowns in 1989, he reached pay dirt once every 10 touches.

Maybe his feet really don't touch the ground.

It will be next to impossible for Ginn to maintain such a preposterous percentage of touchdowns-to-touches, but the Buckeyes will certainly give him every opportunity to try. Because if there is a legitimate threat to Reggie Bush's title of scariest player in college football, it's No. 7 for Ohio State.

Six of Ginn's eight TDs came on plays longer than 50 yards. His four punt-return TDs (in just 15 returns) averaged 69 yards in length. The kid who has been timed at 10.5 seconds in the 100 meters can outrun anyone, from anywhere in the stadium.

"You see a lot of fast guys," said Columbus Dispatch columnist Todd Jones, who spent several years covering the NFL for the Cincinnati Post. "But you see him and say, 'Damn, he's fast!' He has that different type of speed. This was like that Deion [Sanders] speed."

What excites Ohio State fans is the chance to see that speed for a full season.

Last year he arrived as the USA Today national Defensive Player of the Year after a gilded two-way career playing for his dad, Ted Sr., at Glenville High School in Cleveland. But it took Ginn five games to make an impact. He came in as a cornerback, then switched to offense and slowly absorbed offensive coordinator Jim Bollman's system.

"It was a process, and you've got to let the process go," Ginn said. "You've got to learn the plays, know the playbook, and the players had to be confident with you in the game. Sometimes I did feel like I could do it [play earlier], and sometimes I felt I wasn't ready."

Ginn might have struggled with the playbook, but there was no hiding his athletic brilliance. That was bursting forth as far back as August camp, playing against the starting defense.

"We had a few times when he'd catch the ball in the flat and reverse it, run all over the field juking guys," said safety Nate Salley. "We watched that and said, 'All right, we've got something here.' He was out there having fun, showing what he's got. We knew his time would come."

It came in an otherwise dispiriting 24-13 home loss to Wisconsin. Ginn scored the Buckeyes' only touchdown on a 65-yard punt return in the first quarter.

"Man, it was like the greatest thing in the world," Ginn said of that return. "There were 111,000 [fans] there, Big Ten game. It was a feeling you'll probably never, ever feel again. Probably not until your first touchdown in the NFL."

There's that confidence again. But as good as that feeling was, he never touched the ball from scrimmage that day against Wisconsin. That agitated Ohio State fans who saw Ginn as a speedy solution to the team's offensive problems.

The kid didn't necessarily see it the same way.

"I don't want to get out there and not know nothing," he said. "You mess up, and that's when the fans go, 'He shouldn't have been in.'"

Finally, at 3-3, the Buckeyes turned Ginn loose within the offense. He caught a 59-yard touchdown bomb against Indiana. He ran the ball twice and caught a couple of passes against Penn State and also returned another punt for six. In the final four games against Michigan State, Purdue, Michigan and the bowl game against Oklahoma State, Ginn was all over the place.

He scored TDs against the Spartans running, receiving and returning. He had two carries for 47 yards against the Boilermakers. He made the Wolverines look slow with 87 receiving yards and an 82-yard punt-return TD. And against the Cowboys, Ginn had 78 receiving yards and actually took seven snaps at quarterback, one of his high school positions.

Ever since that late-season explosion, the question has followed Tressel like a lost dog: How often are you going to get Ginn the ball? Ask him these days and you get the thin smile of a man who hears it in his sleep.

"He has been our primary punt returner," Tressel said. "He'll get an opportunity on kickoff returns. Offensively, his evolution, as far as the number of touches increased as the year went last year, and that remained consistent in the spring. Defensively, he may even get a touch or two on a pass breakup. (Although Ginn said last week that he has played no defense in fall camp.)

"We've got to be careful. Sometimes you get excited because he can do so many things, but it's a tough, physical game."

Translation: Buckeye Nation might want to see him handle the ball on every other snap, but Ginn may not have the physique to take 20 hits every Big Ten game. So it will be up to Bollman to pick his spots offensively and up to opponents to decide whether they feel like playing Russian Roulette with their special teams and kicking to Teddy Ballgame.

Ginn, for his part, isn't obsessing about when he'll get the ball or how often. He's taking a more existential approach.

"I just run," he said. "My objective is to get to the end zone as fast as I can."

Nobody in college football gets there faster. Ted Ginn might look good when he walks -- feet on the ground or not -- but he looks like a superstar when he runs.

Pat Forde is a senior writer for ESPN.com. He can be reached at ESPN4D@aol.com.

[redblkwht]

Surprise surprise..
Mo Clarett cut from the Broncos today, how fitting..fuck him.

[POJO_Risin]

does he still play for OSU?

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State is actually on down here for fucking once...

OSU looked good in their drive down the field...Zwick looked very...very good...

but of course...we ARE talking about Miami (OH)

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State has been using 4 WR sets all game...

I've been an OSU fan a long time, and I've NEVER seen 4 WR's sets 2 times in a row...