WWE Thread

[Anonymous]

Anybody knows what happened to Mohammed Hassan? I haven't watched the fookin' American Bash yet... Downloading. Have no way of knowing if it was serious or just a way to get him out of wrestling.

If it was serious, sounds like it was an 'accident'. There's almost no trace of the man left on WWE.com

Cheers! :bottle:

[redblkwht]

Whens the PPV folks next week?

[Dave's Bitch]

Originally posted by redblkwht
Whens the PPV folks next week?

sunday

[Vinnie Velvet]

Hogan vs Angle TONIGHT on RAW!!

Expect HBK to make a big interference in this match.

[VonHalen]

and brett to get involved in the hogan/hbk match

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by VonHalen
and brett to get involved in the hogan/hbk match

Kinda unlikely, Von.

Bret is in no condition to come into a match a be even somewhat physical.

However, it would indeed be a shock to the wrestling world.

Maybe that's what the WWE needs.

But my bets on are pretty solidified on NO Bret for Summerslam.

Seems like it could be a straight-down the line match between Hogan and HBK.

[Big Troubles]

I can picture Stone Cold coming out to interfere in the match between HBK and Hogan. All this Icon vs Legend build up, may intice an Austin vs Hogan set up for Wrestlemania.

[Big Troubles]

I just read that Frankie Kazarian left WWE. The best part? On his webiste Frankie writes "I wish the WWE all the best in their future endevours" LOL Its an obvious stab at WWE corp.

http://frankiekazarian.temp.powweb.com/index2.shtml

[Full Bug]

Another great Promo by HBK tonite, that Montreal crowd went wild when they teased Bret was there, I knew he wasnt though, could see that tease a mile away.....

[Big Troubles]

yeah I was stoked for a Bret Hart cameo at that moment. Unfortunatley, HBK's promo was the only thing worthwhile tonight. Maybe HBK can start writing Raw, or at least contribute to the stories. Then Raw will be fun to watch and not overly insulting to anyone over 3 years old.

[Full Bug]

Anyone wonder how Bobby Heenan is doing these days?

BOBBY HEENAN: "I'm recovered from cancer. It'll be four years this March. I just had a full knee replacement. Other than that, they gave me an hour-and-a-half to live! ... I asked the doctor, 'How am I doing?' He said, 'Can you pay me in cash?'

Bobby is the best, I miss his sense of humour in wrestling.....

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Another great Promo by HBK tonite, that Montreal crowd went wild when they teased Bret was there, I knew he wasnt though, could see that tease a mile away.....

HBK comes through once again with a kick ass promo.

He's so much better as a heel and it suits him perfectly.

Much better than the "can't hunt what you can't kill" BS when he first came back in '02 or his born again christian thing (but he still does that stupid hands up in the air thing!)

The sharpshooter on Hogan was great!

[Big Troubles]

something tells me Bret Hart regrets shaking hands with Vince. Having to go through with this whole Montreal thing AGAIN, must be embarassing for him.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
something tells me Bret Hart regrets shaking hands with Vince. Having to go through with this whole Montreal thing AGAIN, must be embarassing for him.

I agree, the dude who writes the Raw report wrote this for the Observer site, and I tend to agree with him....

Final Thoughts:

The opening segment this week was the most fun I’ve had watching wrestling
in a while. The ending was so sad. I supported Bret Hart’s decision to make
amends with Vince McMahon and participate in the making of a DVD. I thought
it was good for Bret. But what Bret didn’t want out of the situation was to
help make WWE money off of Montreal. It would cheapen everything WWE put
Bret and his family through. And yet that’s exactly what WWE did this week.
They screwed Bret again. He thought he was coming in to put together a DVD
he could be proud of. Instead, the promotion used that opportunity to all
but false advertise him to sell SummerSlam buy rates, with an angle playing
off the Montreal finish. Bret never should have trusted them.

[Soul Reaper]

from OWW

WRESTLING COLUMNS
Hassan Killed Off: Unjustified
August 15, 2005 by Jim Wilson

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I find it imprudent that WWE can not only kill off a very entertaining character, and possibly one of the best heels to grace WWE's television shows in many a year, but also take away Mark Copani's WWE career before it even really began, and why? Because UPN told them to. --- If Vince truly desired, he could buy UPN.

Rewind to Hassan’s debut. Back then he wasn't as much of a heel, but would still constantly get booed, and why I ask you? Because of his Arab-descent. Because this man was the man the media, and the President, tell you to fear.





Why is it that wrestlers not from America tend to be heels? We've had Hassan, the Un-Americans, Nikolai Volkoff and Iron Shiek to mention but a few.

I am not anti-American in anyway, but WWE is not just viewed in the United States of American, it is viewed all across the globe, yet WWE's patriotism goes through the roof. One prime example of this would be a PPV titled, "The Great American Bash", with "old-glory" draped everywhere you can see.

I mean, they even get Lilian Garcia to sing the national anthem at PPV's, despite the PPV's being broadcast all across the globe, so why must we sit through self-indulgent bulls*it like that?

Sorry for straying off there, but this brings me round to my next point, with the debate with JR and King, and Hassan and Daivari. That segment was for one country and one country only, America. When JR and King started spewing their patriotic retorts to Hassan and Daivari, the crowd cheered, and the pop was huge; however, WWE is not just broadcast in America.

The thing I always love about these "anti-American" characters, is that, they always bring up valid and somewhat very true points about Americas ideologies and fundamentals, yet how do the WWE fans respond to this? By chanting, "USA, USA, USA." During almost every promo that Hassan did, the crowd chanted "USA, USA, USA", now I had to laugh every time I heard this chant, because essentially they are chanting for Hassan himself, being that he is America-born, and has lived there all his life.

Mark Copani portrayed a character, who complained that after 9/11 he had been treated unfairly because of his Arab-descent. I think this is very true, Arab-Americans have been treated un-fairly since 9/11, with Arabs being pointed at as the enemy. Their faces splashed across papers and on television as being the people to fear, they are the enemy, and this is unjustified. And I think that's what a lot of the problem is, Americans tend to have a problem trying to decipher what is reality and what is fiction. Hassan wasn't a real character, he was a character portrayed by a real man. Just like actors, but no-one complains when actors play sex-crazed maniacal paedophiles in movies no, but when someone speaks out about America, and is of Arab descent they must be a terrorist and must be off television.

This is getting longer each time I type, so I'll try and not type for much longer.

I shall move on to the SmackDown! incident with Hassan and The Undertaker. I haven't seen SmackDown! yet, however I had heard reports from the Tuesday taping (the London bombings happened after this taping), and I thought nothing of it, I did not link this with the London bombings at all.

The media coverage on this incident in America was phenomenal, and one article was published claiming that Hassan and five "Arabs" in ski-masks attacked The Undertaker. Now as has been pointed out, how in the hell could anyone tell if they were Arabs if they wearing ski-masks? If you have watched this incident from SmackDown! and seen any of the close-ups of these apparent Arabs, you'll see that where the mouth and eye-pieces were, they were Caucasians. Probably wrestlers from the backstage area dressed up. However, the media coverage in London of Hassan? You know London, the place where the actual bombing took place? None. You know why? Nobody cared. A bombing had just took place, and people had been killed, I'm sure they couldn't care less about some wrestling event, which had nothing at all to do with the bombings. So why did America, (where the bomb didn't take place), cover this all over the place?

When Hassan came out to retort to this article, he again made some valid points, and again let everyone know that he was from America, but what did the crowd do? Embarrassed themselves in-front of the entire world, and booed Hassan, then went onto chant "USA. USA. USA". Did they even listen to what Hassan had to say at all?

Moving onto the "Great" American Bash, and the killing off of the Hassan character. I was so happy to see Hassan’s entrance when he came out, his entrance was one last "F*ck You" to UPN and the people who complained. When 'Taker started pulling apart the stage, I knew this had to be the end of Hassan, and of course because 'Taker was killing off an anti-American character, he had to resort to the "Dead Man" character, the all-American bike-riding Undertaker, just to please the American people.

America embarrassed themselves with this. The destroyed a perfectly good character, and killed him off, and why? Because of his Arab-descent. WWE, Hassan, the writers, none of them were at fault here, who was? America, and the American people.