The Black Sabbath Appreciation Thread

[FORD]

Technically, Fenholt was never a member of Black Sabbath. When he recorded the 7th Star demos, the intention was to release the record as a Tony Iommi solo album - which it actually was anyway. At the time, the original Sabbath had just come out of their Live Aid appearance, Ozzy was in a period of sobriety, and a new album by the band was planned, but first Ozzy owed CBS/Sony another solo album on his contract. The other band members also agreed to do solo records, which is why Geezer & Bill weren't involved in the 7th Star sessions. Warner Brothers insisted on calling the album "Black Sabbath", which pissed off Ozzy and killed the reunion, but by that point Fenholt's involvement was long gone. So he was never actually in Black Sabbath, but the myth makes for a more dramatic religious conversion story, apparently.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by FORD
Technically, Fenholt was never a member of Black Sabbath. When he recorded the 7th Star demos, the intention was to release the record as a Tony Iommi solo album - which it actually was anyway. At the time, the original Sabbath had just come out of their Live Aid appearance, Ozzy was in a period of sobriety, and a new album by the band was planned, but first Ozzy owed CBS/Sony another solo album on his contract. The other band members also agreed to do solo records, which is why Geezer & Bill weren't involved in the 7th Star sessions. Warner Brothers insisted on calling the album "Black Sabbath", which pissed off Ozzy and killed the reunion, but by that point Fenholt's involvement was long gone. So he was never actually in Black Sabbath, but the myth makes for a more dramatic religious conversion story, apparently.

Pretty much what I figured. Eric Singer's side of the story coincides, and he went on record as saying Fenholt didn't get the gig because he couldn't imrpov lyrics during a jam session, so Tony passed on him.

Fenholt still attests that he was a full time member to this day, I believe, but probably for the religious reasons, like you said.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Panamark
Can I post in this thread even though I believe the original Sabbath is by far the best... And if you start kicking the crap out of me, Ok I can listen to Born again and Heaven and Hell..

But for mine, it was Ozzy and the guys.. All the way !!!

All well and good, my friend

I have absolutely no problem with anyone who prefers Ozzy and the original lineup over the others, at all; just so long as the rest of the Sabbath history post 1979 isn't written off immediately as "garbage" or "useless" or "forgettable"...

[rustoffa]

Heaven and Hell is a grate album.

Gotta say I prefer the original lineup myself.

Favorites constantly change, probably Sabotage currently...."Hole In The Sky" and "Symptom Of The Universe" anyone?

Anyone else think Never Say Die is underrated?

This intern at work is constantly listening to the Georgia State college radio station...it's the usual "fringe" type playist schlock for the mostpart, but the dj's can put stuff in here and there. I thought I was hearing things (literally) when one of the kids played "Juniors Eyes".....wtf?

Kinda cool.

[loss of fools]

im with you panamark its ozzy all the way.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by loss of fools
im with you panamark its ozzy all the way.

The only problem I have with Ozzy being back in the band is that they've accomplished jack shit with him since 1997 because Ozzy's too busy being a TV star to actually work on a new album. There was supposed to be one produced by Rick Rubin, but then The Osbournes took off and Geezer, Tony and Bill are forced to sit around waiting for something to happen...

...let's hope it does, and soon!

[Atomic_Rob]

I'm with Panamark and Lossoffools, you just can't beat the Ozzy stuff like Hole In The Sky, Symptom of the Universe, War Pigs, Never Say Die, N.I.B etc



After the US Ozzfest Re-union, they better come back to the UK!

[Vivian Campbell]

I forgot to mention Ray Gillan.

[loss of fools]

i know what you mean bueno. is ashame that people see ozzy as a celebrity more than a rock legend like it should be.