American Idol

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
They can kick me out. I dont give a fuck WHO it is... A place where your private information is not scared is not a place I want to be anyway. I have already printed all of this. Banning me only strengthens my case. You and that person fucked up. My private information should never have been given to you. I'm ON!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
And you're fucked!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I dont really consider myself a Roth fan... The DLR of the 80's is not the same as the DLR of today" So, that said, is it ok for me to keep ragging on him, since I'm not claiming to be a fan and stuff?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I'd probably NEED the beers to sit through a full show of Daveisms...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Oh yeah... well I know a guy who had several *AHEM* encounters of the close kind with Dave when he was in Argenitalia and he was smoking hot but as queer as a 2 dollar bill...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Men are from venus, Dave is from Mars.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Absolutly NOT! Unless of course there are no guests because it'd get really old watching a show where Dave constantly out talks and interrupts them. I can't see Dave in that role because with him, it'a All Dave all the time... I doubt he'd be interested in sharing the spotlight... Without guests, the show would last 3.75 mins because after that he be back to using old material...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Sammy may be short but havent you ever heard about how short guys are pistols when it comes to punching... Little F%$Kers can kick butt! Dave has to turn everything into comedy... maybe that's why in REAL life he's pretty much a loner. But then again, who needs friends...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Doing originals is alot more noble and requires alot more talent than doing copies. Dave is out to make a quick buck...He always liked doing covers because 1/2 of the work was already done...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Just my opinion but Dave's been doing the same exact show for years now. I wouldn't pay a nickle to see him.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I dont think we will EVER see EVH and DLR on the same stage ever again. I really don't think that even the RRHOF will be reason enough for Ed to ever stand by Dave again. If I were Ed I wouldn't give DLR the time of day. The way that Dave goes out and continues to talk smack about Eddie after everything that he's been going through is not the way that people should treat people. I dont believe in kicking people when they are down and I especially don' like the way that Dave has been making a living by riding on the coat tails of the original VH yet continues to slam the people who help made all of it possible...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
We all know Dave was always into easy money while Ed was more of an earner.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Thing about Sammy is that when he is talking badly about someone he just being blantantly honest. He isnt trying to degrade or humiliate them. He makes it perfectly clear that he's simply speaking his opinion from his experiences dealing with that individual. Dave on the other hand gets down and dirty, takes cheap shots and throws in cowardly digs at peoples personal problems. I'd really love to see Sammy and the VH brothers work it out and make some music together. I think there is a chance of that happening. As for DLR, other than his renditions of the old VH songs played with a different band, I think he's finished with VH for good and I'm not sad about it anymore.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Sammy can still sing, Dave cant
Sammy makes his own music, Dave does covers
Sammy looks his age, Dave looks 105
Sammy puts on a show, Dave just wants to get it over with and get paid...

Ever hear the same joke twice? Dave is that joke...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
IMO- Dave will be make it more like a BEACH BOYS reunion then a Journey reunion. Like a big JOKE. Originality? He's been using the same material since 1976 and it's old! I'm so tired of the Sammy is fat thing. He gained a lil weight a few years back but he's trimed down alot since then. I like his new look. He continues to change and it suits his age and shows that he's not stuck in character. Dave wants to be what he was so badly that it's PATHETIC. What will Dave bring? Greif! Chaos! Let Downs! Drama! More of the same... Oh I'm sure he'll bring the Coke too (SNIF)... Oh and bottle of Jack to shake all over the front row. Let's not forget SPANDEX and Grecians formula in Platinum blonde....

A poll, HAGAR vs. ROTH. Without hesitation, FAB posted:

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Wham Bam! I pick...HAGAR!" In fact, FAB set up this poll to prove to the Links that Dave isn't as popular as people say: "Lets find out...I'll set up a pole... I'm sure it's been done but still..."

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
David Lee Roth = Bob Barker

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
The chicken dance? Why would this be so weird at a Roth concert?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I'm not the one who said anything about his sexuality. I do think it's a possibility though, and if he were, I wouldn't care... I still wouldn't buy his CD!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Relax Ineeda... Brett can handle his business just fine and always has... he runs a good place here and it appears that he has the Army pegged for exactly what it is...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Awww come on, We all know that it was the bro's who pulled the plug on THAT reunion attempt, not Dave. His presentation of HIMSELF during that breif period of time in which a reunion was being considered is what made it a no go not the fact that he wasn't kissing major VH butt.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Interesting! Cuz I heard that Sammy said Dave was Tinkey Winkey, the GAY one...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Someone needs to hand Dave a floor length mirror...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I've seen his act and thats enough for ME! Sorry but IMO seeing Dave sing classic VH w/o the brothers again is like watching a movie you love over and over again. After awhile you just get tired of it, know it by heart and it get less and less entertaining.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Dave is a marketing master! He knows mentioning EVH or anything VH related will keep his name circulating! It is the ONLY thing that DLR can say or do that makes him "NEWSWORTHY"... He has been riding the VH coat tails for years now and makes a career out of doing it just right.

This was FAB's signature at the Links:

EVH- We could go out there and make a killing on tour with Roth but we're not a nostalgia band. I would never just take somebody's money for playing old songs to bring back memories. I'm sure a lot of fans of the band would love to see it-but some things are better left to memory.
Guitar World 1997

When someone announced that the ROTHARMY was back, FAB complained:

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Is this Van Halen related?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Dave is a has-been. Go back to your 'Army', silly!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Well, I know it'd be nice to think that Dave could humble himself and accept the reality that VH was a band and that it was not HIM alone that made the band successful. He is a show stealer! He likes to be the main act. He likes to talk alot and the only person he likes listening to is himself. Sorry Hec, but I think if you put this guy on a stage with the rest of VH and an audience of his peers, he will turn on the 'ACT' thinking it's impressive and thinking that its 'DAVE LIKE' and thinking it's what people want and he will make a fool of himself and the band once again. I just wish he could be NORMAL! But it's like he's in total denial that alot of things have changed since 1984.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Regardless... If they were to be inducted I can see Dave turning it into HIS night, it'd be all about HIM and he'd turn the whole think into circus. It'd be another moment in the bands history where Ed has to sit back and bite his tounge so Dave can have his moment of glory. IMO Dave just ruins everything for this band. Yeah he HELPED get them where they got but lets not forget what happened to him when he went off on his own.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I love "Me Wise Magic" I just think it sounds like Dave is really working hard to sing it. I wonder how it would have been if Sammy sang it? Afterall, IMO it's more suitable for his vocal style. (i.e. Naturally Wired)

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I dont think Dave could have pulled off Humans Being to save his life.

Here's what FAB thought of the new video at DLR's site:

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
That was just STUPID!

Someone mentions the CRAZY FROM THE HEAT book, and FAB says:

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Wonder what other treasures we can uncover in this tomb?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
After I saw the tour my answer was flat out NO. But now that some time has passed I think I'd consider it. I mean, it is an excuse to hook up with my VH croanies and we did have blast... But Dave sucked and while Sammy was good, it was kind of the same show as his 10/13 tour was...But it was good seeing Brian on stage with Dave...But Dave sucked... so.... I dont know????

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Once Dave's onboard he "might as well jump" MAN OVERBOARD!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Is that why DAVE has blown every chance he had at rejoining the legacy your speaking of by continuing to believe that it is all about him and conducting himself like a 2nd rate variety act? He should know by now that in order to make it work in VH he needs to behave more like and serious musician behind the scenes and save the comedy for the videos. Honestly, I love the Dave era, but Dave would irritate the hell out of me if I had to work with him. Heck, I get irritated just watching him in interviews and what not.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
It's like a friend who keeps telling the same joke over and over. Eventally it's just NOT funny anymore. I liked Dave in the &)'s when he was sexy ans mysterious. When VH added a lil variety to their act it was cool because here they were the BAD GUYS of Rock-n-Roll being funny and THAT maade it more funny. But they did it and that was enough. DAVE couldn't stop after that. He needed to get a grip and couldnt. He was on a high horse and based his entire solo career on the comedy which grew old quick and landed him in Vegas. Now he's skating on the old VH coat tails trying to hang on to what he once was. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where DAVE went wrong. Shouldnt be to hard to fix, but he cant conform.

Somebody asks why the ARMY was closed down...FAB responds:

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Got closed down... Don't know the details... Don't really care...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I am a Van Halen Fan! All eras! I just dont think Dave has it amymore.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
A 'HAS BEEN' is someone who continues to promote the 'SAME OL SHIT' without putting out anything new. The music is good and people still want to hear it but that is just 'NOT ENOUGH'...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Sammys a drunk??? Daves a cokehead...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Can you pinpoint some CHARISMA dating more current than 1985?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Dave cant even sing the Dave stuff the way he sang it in the 70's and 80's. Why should sammy try to. Lets move on... Sammy will bring a newer more mature feel to VH. They dont want to be a nastalgia (sp?) band. If you want more of the same, keep playing the remasters and be happy...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Well Van Halen is a rock band not a comedy act. Dave has a great bod but he is NOT sexy. Comb over and bleached out hair... NOT SEXY. Dont you hate it when old men wear speedos....

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Like I said. I think Sammy would like it, but is content if it doesnt happen. If anyone is FOAMING it's Dave... Dave has had many chances and f----- them up in one way or another. Sam and VH had some issues but there is still some hope for resolve there. All hope is gone for Dave as far as VH goes. I'd be highly disapointed with VH if they were to bring Dave back for anything more that a reunion tour with BOTH singers. I can see Sammy fitting back into VH alot more comfortably than Dave.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Dave's gay. I have a friend on the inside that knows some sick stories. But listen to him sing. Does it surprise you?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
It's just that Dave seems to be hanging on others coat tails in order to stay in the spotlight. Dave is washed up. He IS the LIBERACE of the Y2K's. If he'd cut the ACT then MAYBE... But as for the thread I say Dave wants it more. Too bad he pissed away all his chances. Ed didnt blow it for the fans, Dave's big freakin mouth and ego did... PERIOD!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Lmao!!!
David Lee Dork...
Dork Lee Roth...
David Dork Roth...
They all sound pretty good... Ever see the Buenos Aires bootleg... Theres a part in it where DLR is singing Jamies Crying and he walks down stage and then walks back waddeling like a duck. We may be onto something here!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
For the thread...Dave sux

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Actually, Dave does it daily and has even kicked the entire band and crew out of the bus in the middle of travel so he can line um up all by his lonesome. They're Rockstars... I guess that makes it ok? At least Sammy has a life offstage and only indulges periodically! I happen to know that Sammy isn't much of a partier...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Roth is a dork and always has to try and steal the show. More timess than not he ends up looking like an old burnt out HAM... Kudos to Sam for rolling with the puncches... Slapfighting is supposed to be funny...Remember the three stooges?

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Deal with it! Eddie said it best in 1996 The DLR of the 80's IS NOT the DLR of the 90's or in this case the Y2K's

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
When he left VH I truely believe that he thought he would make it on CHARISMA alone. Fact of the matter was that his act grew old, tired and overdone quite soon which is why his solo career fizzled out so fast. I loved VH with Dave and it really pisses me off that even to this day, in spite of everything that he should have learned by now, he STILL thinks his charisma is enough to base a career on and a reunion with the greatest band ever. Well, I dont think it is. I dont want to see this 50 year old man, trying to keep his hair long and blonde, sporting spandex, jerking JD all over the audience, threating to "fuck your girl friend" and doing arthritic karate kicks and jumps and singing the old classics flat and half heartedly. Anyway in answer to this thread, what made Dave great was not DAVE or his charisma it was the package... it was the band as a whole- VAN HALEN...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Uh Yeah...WE all saw how GOOD Dave did on his own... He didnt even sell out in Vegas!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I know first hand that Dave is and was a big COKE heand and I dont mean Pepsi. I could JUMP like that too if I was AMPPED up on speed...

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I hope Ed sticks to his guns and doesn't call Dave. Don't give in to the pressure Ed. Call Sammy!

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Sammy speaks the truth. For some reason DLR has not been able to hold on to many bandmembers throughout his career. I dont blame Sammy for dissing Dave, infact I agree with most everthing he's said. I do think capping on the hair thing is a bit petty but hey, when someone gets under your skin, you pull out all the punches...

I think this is the most revealing...this is just over a year old.

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Brett, don't give in and turn this place into the Army!

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I am done, I'm not attacking you in any way. But I'm curious why you are upset over the fact that somebody knows you work for an eyeglass shop? How is that damaging information? Now if they'd given out the name of the shop, the address, and phone number, etc., I can see why you'd be upset. But this? I'm confused.

that's kinda of what I was wondering.

[Fabulous Shadow]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I am done, I'm not attacking you in any way. But I'm curious why you are upset over the fact that somebody knows you work for an eyeglass shop? How is that damaging information? Now if they'd given out the name of the shop, the address, and phone number, etc., I can see why you'd be upset. But this? I'm confused.

Because I happen to know that the IP shows the name of the company... The last thing I need is anyone knowing who I am working for or bringing any bad stigma to my name in my business enviroment. I don't need the Army members to know where I am working and I am beyond livid. That sort of info should NEVER be handed out. Especially to people like Rikk. If I wanted people to know, I would have told them myself. My right to privacy should have been protected.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
that's kinda of what I was wondering.

Oh! Don't you guys worry! This site is sooooo fucked!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Because I happen to know that the IP shows the name of the company... The last thing I need is anyone knowing who I am working for or bringing any bad stigma to my name in my business enviroment. I don't need the Army members to know where I am working and I am beyond livid. That sort of info should NEVER be handed out. Especially to people like Rikk. If I wanted people to know, I would have told them myself. My right to privacy should have been protected.

Yes yes. Melodrama at its best. Nobody did an IP trace to prove this, idiot. You told the person. And you know it.

Answer the question...if you don't work for an eyeglasses manufacturer, why is this information coming from an IP trace? You can't have it both ways.

Go ahead, attack the site.

And BTW, I happen to know exactly how you know that an IP address sometimes shows the name of the company...hmm?

[Brett]

Fab if you're so worried about confidentiality and that company, why the fuck are you posting from there at all? But you said it wasn't from an IP address anyway, so who cares about IP's.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Brett
Fab if you're so worried about confidentiality and that company, why the fuck are you posting from there at all? But you said it wasn't from an IP address anyway, so who cares about IP's.

Exactly.

And the same person that was bragging about personally meeting 30 people at this site is gonna have us believe that the place she works is only known because the top dogs at this site did IP searches? That's fucking ridiculous and insulting. Enough of this fucking drama and constant lying.

[Fabulous Shadow]

I said it WAS from an IP address... I have never told anyone who I am working for. EVER. I dont post from there much, but I have as has everyone here posted while working. It is not info that should be revealed on a public board. It's WAY WRONG and I am livid as hell.

[Fabulous Shadow]

Originally posted by Rikk
Exactly.

And the same person that was bragging about personally meeting 30 people at this site is gonna have us believe that the place she works is only known because the top dogs at this site did IP searches? That's fucking ridiculous and insulting. Enough of this fucking drama and constant lying.

Yes Asshole, that is true. Not even my closest board friends know which company I am working for and when... Nobody. I try and keep important thing confidential... Ya know, like YOU who hides everything because some things are private. This crossed the lines and I will seek action if I can. I swear to CHRIST!

[Brett]

Yeah but someone somewhere has access to that shit when you post on a public message board. Of course we all post from work, but still if you're concerned about it, I just wouldn't even do it. Not even take a chance.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
I said it WAS from an IP address... I have never told anyone who I am working for. EVER. I dont post from there much, but I have as has everyone here posted while working. It is not info that should be revealed on a public board. It's WAY WRONG and I am livid as hell.

You're a fucking liar. Keep claiming that this site traced that and let the info be known. But you're lying and you know it. You said you have met 30 people personally, and you're gonna claim you haven't told ONE of them your job in "real life"? That's bullshit. You invite the site to your birthday celebration, post pics of yourself that are everything but nude, but you haven't told one person where you work? That's just bullshit. Nobody revealed any personal info except you. And frankly, after you said you had my IP address and was going to trace where I live and send the hubby, I lost any desire to feel bad for you if anyone did the same to you. But it's bullshit. You're just trying to make the site look bad because YOU look bad.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Yes Asshole, that is true. Not even my closest board friends know which company I am working for and when... Nobody. I try and keep important thing confidential... Ya know, like YOU who hides everything because some things are private. This crossed the lines and I will seek action if I can. I swear to CHRIST!

So were you lying when you posted on this board that you own your own business or are you lying now when you say the IP address traced your REAL work at an eyeglass manufacturing company?

[Fabulous Shadow]

Originally posted by Rikk
You're a fucking liar. Keep claiming that this site traced that and let the info be known. But you're lying and you know it. You said you have met 30 people personally, and you're gonna claim you haven't told ONE of them your job in "real life"? That's bullshit. You invite the site to your birthday celebration, post pics of yourself that are everything but nude, but you haven't told one person where you work? That's just bullshit. Nobody revealed any personal info except you. And frankly, after you said you had my IP address and was going to trace where I live and send the hubby, I lost any desire to feel bad for you if anyone did the same to you. But it's bullshit. You're just trying to make the site look bad because YOU look bad.

No, not one of them know what companies I work for and ya know what... I'll drag every friend that I have made here and anyone that I have ever met and have then testify to it. I'll fucking prove it because this type of shit should NOT be allowed or tollerated. You crossed the line and so did the person who gave you the Ip info... I intend on persuing this in anyway I can. Ban me! I could give a fuck. I have it all in black and white and I have nothing to fucking lose. I expect my private info be just that and what I want shared, I'll share. That is my fucking right.

[Ally_Kat]

Well, the blonde is confused because when you check an IP thru the board, all you get is a city, currency of the country it's in, latitude, longitude, etc.