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  • ULTRAMAN VH
    Commando
    • May 2004
    • 1480

    The Death of Hard Rock

    I am very discusted and fed up with Rap and Hip Hop. And before I get started, I am in no way a racist or close minded bigot. The music industry has found a new money maker and is running away with it. Unfortunatley there will be repercussians in the future.
    When I was growing up, I was subjected to music at an early age. My father had a plethera of music on reel to reel tapes. This is back in the early to mid 70's for the youngsters who haven't a clue what a reel to reel player is. Anyway I listened to Motown, surf music, and the British Invasion. I can say to this day I still love this stuff. It was music, not some electronic loop. Yes folks there were actual musicians back then who really sang and played their instruments. In the 70's this music was considered to be classic. As I grew older I began listening to Kiss, Judas Priest, and VanHalen. This drove my parents crazy. To them it was noise. Now remember,I had an appreciation for their generation of music. As time went on I became the music director for the family reunions and 4th of July Parties. I provided the music. I made mix tapes of my parents music and mixed in some country and alternative for my younger cousins. But I also mixed in some classic VanHalen, AC-DC and Kiss for my generation. Well nothing tickeled me more than hearing my mom sing along to Jamie's Cryin with my niece's and nephews.
    Now lets jump ahead 10 years. I really can't imagine my self or anyone singing along to a Ludacris or 50 cent tune. As a matter of fact I don't see this crap ever being considered classic, like say the Beatles or The Stones. There is going to be a huge gap in the music industry with the absence of Hard Rock an Rock music in general.
    Okay so there is Chevelle and The Darkness, and I really dug the earlier stuff by Creed. But the Hard Rock music of today is lacking energy. I truly feel back in 96 if the real VH had reunited it would have been a much needed shot of adrenaline for Hard Rock music. Younger bands at the time would have been influenced by the veteran VH to play guitars solo's and write music about good time's, not stuff about killing cops, killing your parents and referring to women as HOE'S. And last but not least, the promotion of Crack use and other illicit drugs. Unfortunatley, years later we were subjected to Van Halen lite or Van HAGAR which limped from state to state leaving Hard Rock in it's sedated coma.
    I also blame the local radio stations. Instead of promoting new rock bands they continue to give heavy rotation to Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath and Jimi Hendrix. Great band's, but come on folk's this stuff is 35 years old. Another annoying factor is all the talk from the morning shows to the afternoon programs. If I wanted talk, I would flip my radio over to AM. They even have the audacity to play the Best Of these morning FM talk shows on weekends. Rock is Dead
  • Soul Reaper
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2005
    • 8343

    #2
    Real rock music is not dead, it's just gone underground.

    Don't worry the fashion pendulum will swing the other way and rock music will be king again.
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    • flappo
      Banned
      • Jan 2004
      • 8223

      #3
      agree with that

      'rock is dead they say'

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      • monkeythe
        Foot Soldier
        • Apr 2004
        • 634

        #4
        You can't blame the local radio stations. They don't exist anymore. However, you can blame the big corps like Clear Channel for killing what was once known as local radio. They've done such a great job that people are now buying satellite radio to listen to the type of selection they used to get for free. I recommend that you get XM or Sirius and they have a good selection of new rock music that you won't hear anywhere else.

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        • Soul Reaper
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2005
          • 8343

          #5
          BBC Radio and Galaxy sucks.

          Nothing but hip-hop and indie!

          Damn Razorlight!
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          • nosuchluck
            Sniper
            • Aug 2004
            • 951

            #6
            Originally posted by Soul Reaper
            Real rock music is not dead, it's just gone underground.

            Don't worry the fashion pendulum will swing the other way and rock music will be king again.
            took the words right out of my mouth - about the 'gone underground' bit.
            don't care much for the fashion pendulum, though.

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            • Soul Reaper
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2005
              • 8343

              #7
              Originally posted by nosuchluck
              don't care much for the fashion pendulum, though.
              yeah, well, it is true.
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              • Panamark
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 17161

                #8
                Just when you think Rock is dead and buried.
                It always comes back !


                And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about
                And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve.
                Leave me alone don't want your promises no more
                'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
                Won't ever change, may think it's strange

                You can't kill rock'n'roll it's here to stay
                BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                Love ya Mary Frances!

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                • nosuchluck
                  Sniper
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 951

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Soul Reaper
                  yeah, well, it is true.
                  sure, rock might come back into fashion. my point is that it doesnt matter to me if it does.

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                  • Soul Reaper
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 8343

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nosuchluck
                    sure, rock might come back into fashion. my point is that it doesnt matter to me if it does.
                    it's not in 'fashion' now, but it is still more important than hip-hop and fake pop music
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                    • Terry
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 12123

                      #11
                      Rock aint dead.

                      Just 'cuz it's not being focused on in every media outlet, unlike rap or American Idol-esque pop, means nada, unless you require everyone else to be listening to rock in order to validate it for you.

                      Tell you what might have turned a lot of potential hard rock fans onto rap and top 40 shit in the late 1980s/early 1990s though: faux-hard rock.

                      Top-40 power ballad shit music, wrapped up in spandex and marketed with a "hard rock" image. Shit like Warrant, Bon Jovi, Winger, Poison and the like. Forced to choose between that and rap, I'll take the latter.

                      Hard rock scene is still active. You just gotta dig a little deeper than before to find the good stuff. Nothing wrong with that. Makes you appreciate it all the more when you find it.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • SoldMySoul4RnR
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 362

                        #12
                        The fact that its "underground" makes it cooler anyway.

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                        • bueno bob
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22951

                          #13
                          Hard rock going mainstream in the 80s was one of the worst things that could have ever happened to it. Metal (or "Metal") became trendy for a bit due to the success of bands like Maiden, Priest, etc, so what did you get? The inevitable watered-down metal bands that were "safer" for radio play than those groups were - Trixter, Winger, Warrant, Poison, Firehouse, blah blah blah...Nirvana was such a breath of fresh air to more extreme music after all the hair-metal noise of the late 80s, it was no wonder that hard rock and heavy metal became viewed as a fucking joke.

                          That being said, I hate the radio these days. Nu-metal is fucking crap, I can't tell Korn from Slipknot from any of the other 5000 horseshit sound alike acts. Rap and hip-hop both suck - LONG gone are the days when Will Smith, Sir Mix-a-Lot and the others in the same school of rap could actually make it even remotely listenable. I just laugh my ass off when I see some 16 year old white kid in the car his dad bought for him with a $4000 stereo blaring the crap at a stoplight, bobbing his head and flashing gang-banger hand symbols, and I try to make sure they SEE me laughing at them...because they need to know that they just look fucking GAY doing it.

                          Gone are the days, hunh?

                          Well, maybe in another few years, things'll at least change with radio formats, who knows...?
                          Twistin' by the pool.

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                          • rustoffa
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Panamark
                            Just when you think Rock is dead and buried.
                            It always comes back !


                            And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about
                            And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve.
                            Leave me alone don't want your promises no more
                            'Cause rock'n'roll is my religion and my law
                            Won't ever change, may think it's strange

                            You can't kill rock'n'roll it's here to stay


                            The advent of mass media has forever changed the dynamics of popular or whatever music promotion/marketing. I personally think the removal of "Jefferson" from "Starship" and the resulting sound was the rorsach test that blinded record executives.

                            You get popular nu-metal outfits that are as sterile as fucking Ashlee Simpson.

                            As bad as it is, hard work and kicking ass still pays off. Mastodon is a local act that paid fucking dues and recently signed to a major for their efforts.

                            The whole "underground" thing is marketed as well, make no mistake.

                            Grunge, Nu-Metal, the current "big eighties" resurgence.....

                            As long as it falls under a cliche to live by, fuck it.

                            "It's Only Rock And Roll"
                            :p

                            here it comes, you're never gonna top it
                            on a run, no way you can stop it
                            total style, perfection in decay
                            running wild, flat out all the way

                            now you can ride it high
                            and you can light the way
                            lift up your hands in praise
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll

                            like a charging bull, it's a juggernaut
                            with steam at full, never to be caught
                            incarnate power, roaring from the sky
                            while others cower, rock ain't gonna die

                            now you can ride it high
                            and you can light the way
                            lift up your hands in praise
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll

                            it's an angry steed,
                            on a never ending course
                            with grace and speed
                            it's an unrelenting force
                            his head thrown back, defiantly proud
                            under constant attack,
                            it's blasting, fast and loud

                            now you can ride it high
                            and you can light the way
                            lift up your hands in praise
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll
                            you can't stop rock 'n' roll

                            can't stop, can't you stop it
                            can't stop you can't stop it
                            can't stop, can't you stop it
                            can't stop you can't stop it
                            can't stop, can't you stop it
                            can't stop you can't stop it
                            can't stop, can't you stop it
                            can't stop you can't stop it

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                            • Panamark
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 17161

                              #15
                              FUCK YEAH !!!!!!!!!! :D

                              As long as there are Marshalls and guitars.

                              ROCK WILL NEVER DIE !
                              BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                              Love ya Mary Frances!

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