completely unrelated to this, I've been listening to a lot of Frehleys Comet lately. Second Sighting is really underrated.
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If it weren't for Ace and Peter reuniting with the band in the 90s, scab KISS wouldn't be selling jack. They were really not selling albums or selling out arenas anymore with Bruce and Eric. The reunion regenerated interest in the live show. That's why when Ace and Peter left again, they didn't go back to the no makeup version. They knew that fans were more likely to come see scabs in makeup than two regular guys.
The live shows that I've attended in California, Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, Virginia, New York, Toronto, Buffalo, Michigan, Florida have either been sold out or you had to look hard for the empty seats. One of my all-time favorite tours was back in 92 and they weren't wearing makeup for that one...The Palace of Auburn Hills was jammed and the Detroit crowd gave them a film worthy place to showcase what they were all about.
Believe your own eyes with those "scabs" as they've been called. Playing off a really great KISS album "Revenge"...with those scabs...to an arena where...well, there's no crickets chirping.
The reunion did jumpstart interest in the band but it was a nostalgia grab for cash and nothing more. Everyone on the inside knew it too. Peter knew...Ace knew. They weren't members of the band, they were hired scale employees. They soured the deal too. They both walked out before and were holding the band, the fans, the promoters for another renegotiated contract. They realized they weren't getting the band back together and they wouldn't be allowed back in. Actions have consequences. Part of what soured the fans was Gene and Paul getting the rights to the "Spaceman" and "Catman" makeup and likeness. Kudos to them...look at the merchandising they did after that! Ace and Peter let it slip from their hands. They took their booze/drug addled abilities and walked out once...held a "gun" to their heads and got the rug yanked out from under them. Too bad. I've met Ace and had a chance to talk to him. He's a likeable guy, but you KNOW he has substance abuse issues. Haven't met Peter, but had friends that have and they all have the same thing to say..."never saw him without a glass in his hand". Peter and Ace gave away the makeup and likeness they created. It's on THEM, not Gene and Paul. Do I wish they'd just keep on creating new characters? Yes, I do. They decided to stick with their formula...one that has and is working. What I'm hearing is a lot of jealousy and bitterness from a lot here about a working band that at the end of the day isn't ready to hop in a grave and push daisies. Sounds like by the way their tours are still being attended and even "Sonic Boom" and "Monster" are being bought...even in this digital day and age.
People are STILL showing up.
People still show up for Ace and Peter too. I've attended several Ace shows...he mainly plays solo stuff but when he dusts of KISS songs he helped create and wrote...he's smiling when he's playing them. I'm POSITIVE both of them love cashing those KISS royalty checks that they still get to this day. If only they would've sobered up and realized the opportunity that was given to them when they were given it...and time again.Comment
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I think most people are okay with the KISS lineups pre-96...Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.Comment
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Man i have tried to like that cd so many times but it always falls short to my ears. Don't get me wrong..i will always have it to complete my Frehley collection. I find Live +1 to be really cool because of the live Kiss tracks he did. I would say Trouble Walkin' is the underrated album of his work. I always found it interesting that he did Hide Your Heart before Kiss did. While the lyrical content of the song is cheesy, Ace did a much better version than Kiss.RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
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I've been listening to Anomaly a lot lately.Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.Comment
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Hmmm...Eric was in the band then.
So...they just have a problem with Tommy Thayer then?
That's funny. He's a very capable guitarist and on the last 2 records can play the role he's given.
Bruce played the songs but added his spin to them. That was cool and you can tell it was his touch, but he earned that right.Comment
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The problem people have with Tommy the Roadie is that he's playing in Ace's makeup.
At least Singer played with them for a few years as himself.
Vinnie Vincent made up his own character. So did Eric Carr. They only used them for a couple of years, so if these two scabs can't make up their own characters, maybe they should use Vincent & Carr's, instead of Ace & Peter's.
Now of course somebody might think it's in bad taste to use a dead guy's makeup. But not really much worse than what they are doing now. Thayer & Singer dressed up as Ace & Peter is no more authentic than Jerskmear's Mini-Kiss tribute band......
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Me and Pojo saw KISS when they opened up for Aerosmith in '03.... We got great last-minute seats next to the elevated platform stage left....
Tommy came up there several times, smiling at everyone, asking "what's up?"....
Seems like a really nice guy, for whatever that's worth....Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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Me and Pojo saw KISS when they opened up for Aerosmith in '03.... We got great last-minute seats next to the elevated platform stage left....
Tommy came up there several times, smiling at everyone, asking "what's up?"....
Seems like a really nice guy, for whatever that's worth....How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-RComment
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I was just saying that I don't think anyone is against Tommy personally, that's all...Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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If it weren't for Ace and Peter reuniting with the band in the 90s, scab KISS wouldn't be selling jack. They were really not selling albums or selling out arenas anymore with Bruce and Eric. The reunion regenerated interest in the live show. That's why when Ace and Peter left again, they didn't go back to the no makeup version. They knew that fans were more likely to come see scabs in makeup than two regular guys.
That being said they are rock and roll legends. I think I'm against this Hall of Fame concept because it has put more than one band in an akward situation. It's like saying you are going to have to get back with your ex-wife again when the spit got real nasty and people got hurt and there is bad blood. Never a good idea.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I read an interview with Tommy and to be honest, he really payed respects to Ace. He's not a member of KISS. He, Gene, and Paul make this clear. Gene and Paul own KISS. Tommy is a paid employee. Honestly, you know the critics of this guy if they had the same opportunity would be doing what Tommy is doing. I mean give me a break. Tommy can be fired and replaced at any time. It's called a job. He does what he's paid to do quite well.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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