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You gotta be kidding me with this shit.....You're WAYYYYYYY too caught up in KISS fandom if you're writing this much to defend them like this. I grew up with KISS, love KISS, supported them through all the changes, taking off the makeup, even that fucking awful Elder album, but If you actually think that KISS was selling albums or selling out all their shows before the reunion tour, you're out of your mind.
I'm pissed at Gene and Paul. They are robbing the fans of what we want. And I won't spend one cent to go to a scab show. I bought both albums (I can deal with $10), but not one cent on a show. Take off the makeup, we can talk.
I'll admit I'm a fan.
I'm not going to let others say they don't sell records like they used to and play to empty seats.
That's why I posted my reply. The figures are there and so are the vids to show that they're not.
Do I wish it was everyone connected to the band taking the stage at the rrhof...yes I do. That's not happening though.KISS is in and they earned their place.Comment
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I threw out everything I had Kiss-related.
This crap is the last straw.
If I ever hear anything else about the Asshole Twins, it will be too soon.
I will never willingly listen to their crap ever again, as all it does is remind me what a goddamnable fucking asshole Gene and Paul truly are.
Fuck those worthless pieces of shit. They are not even worthy to smell Peter's shit.Comment
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Sweet, tap-dancing baby Jesus, you guys...
Yeah, I love KISS, on up to that second, slickly recorded live album, afterward that dumb-as-a-box-of-hammers "I Was Made For Loving You" single (which I cherished for Ace's solo, only to find out years later it might NOT have been Frehley playing it ), "Sure Know Something" (yeah, right...more deep thinking) and some of the "Non-make-up" stuff.
Fuck, I discovered this band while my mom was watching the Mike Douglas show one afternoon when I came home from school. Next thing ya know, I'm in a beat-to-shit Ford Econoline, delivering newspapers with that first album blasting through a crapazoid 8-track player, with one functioning speaker!
Yet there is no possible way am I gonna put this oddball outfit under the scrutiny we normally reserve for acts like Van Halen (don't get me started on that inscrutable worm fest), Grand Funk Railroad or even Uriah Heep.
Who gives a shit about musical or moral integrity from a band of twits like this? Yeah, Gene Simmons is pretty much a schmuck, and Paul Stanley blew his throat out around five years ago. Whatever.
I'll still buy KISS reissue albums and tee-shirts at Target (on sale, of course), maybe go to a show or two, and ultimately not concern myself with the band's politics. Know why? The music makes me happy. And with a group like KISS, if you are thinking beyond that, then perhaps ya might be thinking a bit too much.
And by the way, this is a copy of the shirt I wore to our work Christmas party, a couple years ago...
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”― Stephen HawkingComment
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The original "Alive II" (available as a bootleg) was much better than that studio creation they eventually released under that name.Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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Yeah.... oddly enough, I was just watching it on YouTube and almost pasted it over here myself.Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Maybe they should have called it "KISS: Live at Budokan". Hell, it worked for Cheap Trick (who ironically enough was probably opening for Kiss right around that time)
At 44 minutes though, I'm not sure if that's the whole album. I'd have to dig up that bootleg to check. Might be though, because it does have the "studio" side 4, just like the officially released album did, so that could be the whole live portion of the record (since most "double albums" were only 60 minutes or so back then)Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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I threw out everything I had Kiss-related.
This crap is the last straw.
If I ever hear anything else about the Asshole Twins, it will be too soon.
I will never willingly listen to their crap ever again, as all it does is remind me what a goddamnable fucking asshole Gene and Paul truly are.
Fuck those worthless pieces of shit. They are not even worthy to smell Peter's shit.How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-RComment
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Sweet, tap-dancing baby Jesus, you guys...
Yeah, I love KISS, on up to that second, slickly recorded live album, afterward that dumb-as-a-box-of-hammers "I Was Made For Loving You" single (which I cherished for Ace's solo, only to find out years later it might NOT have been Frehley playing it ), "Sure Know Something" (yeah, right...more deep thinking) and some of the "Non-make-up" stuff.
Fuck, I discovered this band while my mom was watching the Mike Douglas show one afternoon when I came home from school. Next thing ya know, I'm in a beat-to-shit Ford Econoline, delivering newspapers with that first album blasting through a crapazoid 8-track player, with one functioning speaker!
Yet there is no possible way am I gonna put this oddball outfit under the scrutiny we normally reserve for acts like Van Halen (don't get me started on that inscrutable worm fest), Grand Funk Railroad or even Uriah Heep.
Who gives a shit about musical or moral integrity from a band of twits like this? Yeah, Gene Simmons is pretty much a schmuck, and Paul Stanley blew his throat out around five years ago. Whatever.
I'll still buy KISS reissue albums and tee-shirts at Target (on sale, of course), maybe go to a show or two, and ultimately not concern myself with the band's politics. Know why? The music makes me happy. And with a group like KISS, if you are thinking beyond that, then perhaps ya might be thinking a bit too much.
And by the way, this is a copy of the shirt I wore to our work Christmas party, a couple years ago...
No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Chaim could have made all that "Ace is a Nazi" shit up though. Just like he apparently made up the story about Eddie & Alex playing on the demo of "Christine Sixteen" - because you KNOW his greedy ass would have put out that tape by now if it existed, knowing it would sell.
Not that Ace wouldn't be incapable of getting drunk and stupid and thinking.... hey, how can I fuck with these guys? Oh yeah....they're Jews! Why don't I dress up like a Nazi and really piss them off!. It just seems odd that the story never came out until Chaim needed to justify kicking Ace out of the band.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Chaim could have made all that "Ace is a Nazi" shit up though. Just like he apparently made up the story about Eddie & Alex playing on the demo of "Christine Sixteen" - because you KNOW his greedy ass would have put out that tape by now if it existed, knowing it would sell.
Not that Ace wouldn't be incapable of getting drunk and stupid and thinking.... hey, how can I fuck with these guys? Oh yeah....they're Jews! Why don't I dress up like a Nazi and really piss them off!. It just seems odd that the story never came out until Chaim needed to justify kicking Ace out of the band.This space for rent.Comment
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Interesting point of view. You would think someone who's mother spent time in a nazi concentration camp would send ol Ace to the emergency room for dressing up in an SS uniform. Even the most disciplined person would snap when with that kind of shit going on. I always found it amusing a band ran by two jews had a logo that had the nazi styled lightning bolt S's at the end of it. Then I read Ace designed the KISS logo. LOL! Oh that nazi Ace.
Because as pissed off as Chaim would be with Ace doing it, it would seem to me to be that much worse for him if another Jew did it. Especially one who had been his alleged best friend back from 1970 or whenever it was that they put Wicked Lester together. Surely they had conversations about Gene's mom and the holocaust and all that?
As far as the SS in the band logo.... I guess they just had a dark sense of humor about that whole thing. The Germans didn't though..... that's why KISS albums released in Germany look like this.......
Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Chaim and Paul aren't stupid. They were smart enough to see the public loved the NOSTALGIA and were willing to pay for it. It didn't seem to matter that someone else was in the makeup. You wouldn't have the NOSTALGIA illusion if TOMMY Painted Zebra stripes on his face or looked like an evil clown. As long as the music is good, the fireworks blow, and nobody fucks up the choreography and they can sell this shit, all is well in zion. Gene always said KISS was bigger than any one member. He's right. KI$$ like money itself is simply a well crafted illusion.This space for rent.Comment
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