1.92 Million Download...?

[standin]

You can buy ANYTHING from anybody privately and it can be stolen. So...buy new only from a giant retailer and that's it for purchasing, hunh? There's the spirit of American commercialism at work.

This is true. That is exactly why one should deal with only reputable persons.

Receipt of stolen property is not the same as contraband. Contraband, for example refrigerators smuggled into Palestine, may be legally obtained. Not all black-market products are stolen property. Trafficking of contraband is a separate ethical issue. Trafficking of contraband is illegal, therefore, it is wrong to smuggle, ethical issues aside.

Receipt of stolen property is not acceptable behavior, ethically or legally. One may justify the behavior from survival to want, but even if your child lay dieing due to a need of a pharmaceutical, it is still a crime against property the extent or lack of punishment is all that is in question in western law.


A visual explanation would be easier.

[Seshmeister]

It is illegal to rip a file you don't own. We in the music industry frown on that too. But yes, we do get more pissed about you making available a song that can be copied endlessly. .

To be quite honest I think what 'you in the music industry' don't get is that your customers don't give a flying fuck what you frown upon.

The customer's only concern is that the artist continues to produce their art and be rewarded for it.

How many fucking years of paying 90% of 10% on royalties based on damage to 78s in the 90s?

How many times did your industry sign bands and kill their careers as tax dodges?

How many times did your industry manipulate the market?

How many times did your industry exploit global issues such as poverty or climate change to increase profits?

How many times did your industry exploit people in 3rd world countries to supply cocaine and other drugs to yourselves and your artists with terrible results to indigenous populations?

How many times did your industry promote the worst shitty manufactured non music to the teenage market?

Your industry was happy to charge us for music we already owned 3 or 4 times from 4 track to LP to CD to remastered CD. So we now don't want to pay you yet again for the MP3? Tough fucking shit. It's nothing to do with the artist it never has been. You cunts take almost every fucking penny before it ever reaches them.

Fuck your industry, nobody gives a fuck. You are barely one rung above child molesters on the ladder of humanity and one below arms traders. The best thing that could ever happen to music is that if every last one of you lost your jobs and it all started again from scratch.

Cheers!

[standin]

Thank you sesh, I saved your post. It was that good and clear.

I WISH the Michael payout, that will happen, would break the industry corruption strangle hold....
It won't happen, even that large payout won't break, it's gonna put a dent, but I doubt break or change the industry......

[Big Train]

The customer's only concern is that the artist continues to produce their art and be rewarded for it.

This Robin Hood fantasy of fucking the labels to free the artist has one glaring flaw: The artist is not rewarded by your thievery, they are punished far more than we could do on our worst day. There is at least a CHANCE of artist development and financial rewards. In your magic pot of gold, MP3 for all vision, there is none for them. It is suicide.

I don't give a fuck what you think about me, my industry or our business practices. If you take music, your still a fucking thief who can only justify his arguments are on angles like "well what you do is worse". You are no better than the established industry and in fact are much, much worse to the artist.

[Dolemite!]

I buy atleast half the music I download. If I hadn't heard it first I would have bought nothing. Better than nothing for the artist.

But I love that executives are losing sleep over any download. Can't afford another luxury holiday? Boohoo.

Also sharing "Faith No More Discography" as we speak and having a smile on my face doing it. Who said crime doesn't pay?

[hideyoursheep]

I don't give a fuck what you think about me, my industry or our business practices. If you take music, your still a fucking thief

Do you sing?

What instrument do you play?

Sound engineer?

No?


Then you're a thief as well.

Same respect I would give to a low-life fucking scumbag pimp.

Because that's all you really are.

:fupunk::mad0244:

[Big Train]

Yes I do. Please make the connection for me though as to "how I'm a thief too".

You know, when your done doodling with your icons.

I'm a pimp, wow. I give you the same respect I'd give someone who worked at Amway. Which is none..

[standin]

BT,
I got pony in this, I'll let an elder, I respect and admire, speak for me.
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Just yesterday, when speaking to a "developer" my wariness for the "labels" rattled her to the core when discussing exactly what extent the Wal-Mart production, distribution, and financial was to be monitored and to the extent of limited clean contract was to be implemented. Furthermore, I could hear the shaken Id of her soul when I mentioned money laundering and labels.

[standin]

P.s. BT......
No one needs your respect. It is not a vital life giving force. Respect is a product earned.

[standin]

What's more, your saying automatic no respect for those that are in service to you and for without even knowledge of the person in question...

Says so very much about you, you are quite the philistine...

My new disdain for you might not wash away with time...

One of the most abhorred things is to mistreat those that are in service to and for you....

[hideyoursheep]

Please make the connection for me though as to "how I'm a thief too".

-Don't care enough to hold your fucking hand and walk you back through your own condescending, pussy, shit stirring posts only to once again point out to you what is obvious to everyone else.

[hideyoursheep]

Do you sing?

What instrument do you play?

Sound engineer?

Yes I do.

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[Big Train]

-Don't care enough to hold your fucking hand and walk you back through your own condescending, pussy, shit stirring posts only to once again point out to you what is obvious to everyone else.

So you really had no point then. Which is about average for you.

[Big Train]

P.s. BT......
No one needs your respect. It is not a vital life giving force. Respect is a product earned.

PS, nobody needed your lecture.

[Big Train]

P.s. BT......
No one needs your respect. It is not a vital life giving force. Respect is a product earned.

Which is why I'm not offering it blindly. One the hand you say I should always respect people (if they are serving me) and on the other hand "respect is earned". Tell me which one it should be and I'll follow your lead. I could go either way.