Girl Missing After Metallica Concert

[Sensible Shoes]

Yes it was.


NO, THEY FUCKIN' WELL DON'T!

Everybody's out to comfort everybody, because "it's the proper thing to do" & "if you do it, you're a good person. If you don't, you're bad."

But while you're comforting someone just because it's the proper thing to do, you're convincing that person that it wasn't his/her fault, when it probably was. And guess what? They'll do it again. Because it wasn't their fault to begin with.
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well you can practice this if you want to. But these parents won't do it again they don't have any more kids. In this case, who the hell cares whose fault it is? The girl is dead. It's over. What is to be gained from making people suffer?

[Anonymous]

Really trying to understand you're point of view on this....

Good Luck. I don't even know what it is anymore. I used to care about stuff like this, like everyone else. Like you guys.

Now I don't.

I'm a bitter motherfucker nowadays & getting worse. Don't know why, it's not lack of communication skills, as you guys very well know.

Yes, it was her fault she was probably drunk/stoned to get in a vulnerable position that ultimately got her killed.... I don't think anyone would disagree with that....

Was it her parents' fault ?? Hell, who knows... There are situations that happen unfortuantely every day in this country to children with loving parents, just as much to children with parents that have "given up", to use your words... This just goes back to the "evil motherfuckers" statement I made before....

Yeah... but those evil motherfuckers only attack weakened prey, so to speak. And some things really aren't nobody's fault. Like a kid being run over by a car. Sometimes it's the driver's fault, sometimes it's the kid's fault, and sometimes the parents' fault. Other times... noone's.

But this was different? Where were her friends, for instance? Why weren't they with her? Was it their fault? Was it her fault? Who the fuck knows?

And to answer your last question, I think every parent has some kind of fear, in varying degrees, that this sort of thing could happen to their children... Doesn't have to be this extreme, i.e. outside of an arena with 15,000 other drunk/stoned kids, but even around the neighborhood playing....

You're right, I just wanted to point out that there's no need for you to immediately & radically change your habits & go nuts with being OVERcautious, which is a problem too.

You already care & keep an eye out, well... keep doing it.

Just don't go crazy.

there's lots of extenuating circumstances that are just unknown....

Yes, there are.

Maybe, just maybe, the problem for me is that nobody cares until some shit happens. Then it's like EVERYONE cares because it's the proper thing to do, which in itself is a form of hypocrisy.

I guess I just can't stand to hear/read all the "Poor thing. It's so tragic." coming from everyone when such a thing happens.

It's even worse when the person is reviled by everyone & then suddenly that person dies & all of a sudden he/she's an angel.

I had a friend like that once. Nobody liked the guy. Because he was a drunkard & never had a wife & had stolen some money in Switzerland, etc...

Everybody hated the guy. Mothers warned kids to stay away from him, he was a bad example. People mocked him. He didn't give a fuck.

With me, he was always straight, in every sense of the word. A true friend, go figure.

When he died, everybody was mourning him 'cuz it was the proper thing to do. Everybody attended the funeral. Except me.

I couldn't stand to look at those hypocrites in the face.

Maybe it's stuff like this that made me as bitter & disgusted as I am today.

I'm sorry, I know many of you mean it. But a lot of you are only posting like some it's some fuckin' Pavlovian reflex.

Bottom line is... those who should've cared apparently didn't, for some reason or other.

Fuck this.

Fuck everything.

I've got issues.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Anonymous]

well you can practice this if you want to. But these parents won't do it again they don't have any more kids. In this case, who the hell cares whose fault it is? The girl is dead. It's over. What is to be gained from making people suffer?

I'm sorry Shoes, but I've got to go against the tide with this one & preach that fault can't simply disappear.

It's NEVER over.

It's just starting somewhere else.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Sensible Shoes]

Im just saying that beating up on this family does not one iota of good and just wastes energy. There are better targets.

[Anonymous]

I wasn't beating on the family. I never said who's to blame for all this - I don't know who's to blame for all this.

But were I a betting man, I'd bet somewhere, someone knows.

That's what I'm saying.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Sensible Shoes]

I blame Ronald Reagan.

[Sensible Shoes]

Or the Chinese guy in my computer class.

[Anonymous]

Or the Chinese guy in my computer class.

If that guy keeps giving you trouble, here's a killer... but save it 'till you really need it.

"If you're so smart", you say, "how the hell can't you speak ENGRISH, china boy?"

If he gives you smack about you not knowing chinese, finish him off with "Why should I", says you "chinese is useless. I mean, just look at you. Besides, we're speaking engrish, aren't we?"

Cheers! :bottle:

[Susie Q]

Here's where I am at. I got a 16 year old that thinks he has the world by the balls. He came home New Years Night drunk for the first time. I think he was actually scared because he didn't know what the feeling was of 'being drunk'. He was walking home from this house party and decided he would call me, and he talked to me until he got into the drive way. While I do not condone under age drinking, I KNEW he would try it sooner or later. We talked at length about stuff, the hazards, the kids being killed, the DON'T GET IN A CAR of someone drinking, call me instead routine. He said he wouldn't make a habit of partying.

This age is a scary age, and I hope the hell I make it through.


Now about this girl that was abducted and murdered.... This certainly is every parents worse nightmare. I can't imagine burying my child. Knowing my child died a violent death....I don't know how a parent would get through that. Until you either have the child grow inside you and feel it move inside, hearing the heartbeat for the first time, holding your baby the first time, and growing with your baby each day, will you know what it is like to be a parent. To bond that much with a human being for it to be ripped at a moments notice from you forever, is like a steel blade cutting you for eternity.

God speed to the mother and father that have to endure this pain.

[BigBadBrian]

We talked at length about stuff, the hazards, the kids being killed, the DON'T GET IN A CAR of someone drinking, call me instead routine.

Wise choice. My kids know they can call me anytime, no questions asked, for a ride home if they have been drinking or they are with a driver who has been drinking. I would rather have them home safe rather than get a DUI and maybe hurt or kill someone.

[Seshmeister]

But what if they phoned when you were right in the middle of a clan meeting?

[binnie]

We all get stupid drunk when young. Most of us are lucky enough to enjoy it with no serious reprecussions.....

[PETE'S BROTHER]

We all get stupid drunk when young. Most of us are lucky enough to enjoy it with no serious reprecussions.....

i was thinkin' about that the other day. no jail time, no permanent injuries, no kids....

[binnie]

Just crazy hangovers and some nasty itches........

[Fairwrning]

Well..the coroner has ruled out "accidental". Wouldnt say exactly what the cause was but if I recall correctly, they had found her cell phone with the battery removed,which is pretty obviously something a calm person would have thought about . Never understood how a person is capable of doing something like this to an animal, much less a human being..seriously, go home and fuckin jerk-off before you decide to kill a girl just to get your rocks off.
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