Most Prolific Ghost - New Hendrix Album Coming

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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21897

    #16
    The actual song with that title was originally known as "Land Of The New Rising Sun Overture". Hendrix was playing it live throughout 1970, and can be heard on the Rainbow Bridge DVD.

    Here is the actual deal concerning the version on Voodoo Soup. It WAS Hendrix on guitar, but it was overdubbed by Jack Douglas's studio hack cocksuckers.

    Here is the lowdown.

    That original track was recorded Wednesday, Oct. 23, 1968 at TTG Studios in L.A., with Jimi playing guitar and drums.

    The original version did not have Noel Redding on bass. 2 takes were recorded that day, with the second one being considered the master. It was originally 9 minutes long, but by the time the track "New Rising Sun" made it to Voodoo Soup, (which only had pieces of the original track) it was only clocking in at 3:21.

    Parts of the original "New Rising Sun Overture" were considered and rejected for use in the film Rainbow Bridge and it's soundtrack album, which was not comprised solely of material from July 30, 1970 in Hawaii (the concert on the film) but it also had a track from Berkeley, May 30, 1970, as well as various studio tracks.

    But I digress.

    The original track was reviewed February, 22, 1971 by Electric Lady engineer John Jansen for the possible use on the Rainbow Bridge soundtrack album, but what Jansen ended up doing was varying the speed of the track and using just a piece of it for an experimental composite master he was creating. He is to blame for this to begin with. This composite creation also featured bits and pieces recorded at other studios in New York (The Hit Factory, and The Record Plant, in addition to Electric Lady).

    Later in 1974, after Alan Douglas assumed control of the Hendrix tape library, the track was overdubbed by drummer Allen Schwartzberg, and percussionist Jimmy Maeulen.
    Four of the tracks on the original 16-track TTG recording were drum tracks played by Jimi himself. So that goddamnable fuck Jack Douglas erased the original drum tracks to have fucking worthless bastard studio musicians play what he wanted.

    Douglas then edited the track, renamed it Captain Coconut, and released it on the posthumous album issued in 1975 called "Crash Landing".

    In 1994, he reconfigured the song somehow and included it on Voodoo Soup. I actually do not have Voodoo Soup. Imagine that haha...I am downloading it tomorrow since I realized now I do not have it. Once Experience Hendrix LLC came into existence, they deleted it from the catalog....(Voodoo Soup is widely seen as a blashpemy release). I can compare the tracks and let you know what differences I find.

    SO....in sum, it was never a 'real' Hendrix composition. Fucking John Jansen and Alan Douglas created a fucking track out of totally unrelated bits and pieces and got a couple of jackoff losers to do overdubs of drums and percussion. I could see Jansen doing something like this just for personal amusement, but then to have such a thing released as an official track is inexcusable.

    Those worthless cocksuckers should be beat with a big ugly stick. The drummer and percussionist as well. Anyone who consents to play on a goddamned bullshit track like that, which was being passed off as an actual Hendrix composition is nothing but a fucking musical whore with no integrity whatsoever and should be thrown in front of a train.

    There. That's how it all went down. :D

    I have (back to the original topic) numerous takes of the title track of this new CD. I just listened to 6 takes which are actually rehearsal takes where Jimi is teaching Billy how to play the song, which was actually called "Valleys Of Neptune Arising", and am listening to 5 final takes from the same time frame as the one on the new album (Sept. 24, 1969), though only one of these takes has a bass track. It is only 2:51 in length, while the others are almost 6 minutes long.

    Looking at the actual track listing of the album which can be seen at the link below, I have got every song on here already, though I am sure the quality will suck compared to properly mixed and mastered versions.



    As I said, the new album will be a nice upgrade to my collection. :D

    Thus endeth the lecture.
    Last edited by Hardrock69; 01-15-2010, 05:37 AM.

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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21897

      #17
      Some shit-hot hendrix

      You guys wanna hear something that will tear your mind apart?

      Get the Dagger Records release "Hear My Music".

      DAGGER RECORDS : Official Jimi Hendrix Bootleg Recordings (www.daggerrecords.com)

      You can hear bits and pieces of the tracks at the link above.

      It is all instrumental, but has a fucking mind-blowing version of Star-Spangled Banner (more intense and fiery than the Woodstock version, though not as "stately"), and some absolutely smoldering/radioactive atomic-bomb level fucking jams, many of which were recorded in London in early 1969. One jam clocks in at 17 minutes plus, another at 10 minutes, most of them being well over 5 minutes.

      VERY MUCH WORTH OWNING.

      Demonstrates Jimi when he still had that fire, and the Experience had it as well.

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      • Terry
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 12123

        #18
        Originally posted by Hardrock69
        You got it.

        Yeah, Al kept asking Hendrix for money once he got famous. Jimi was pretty disgusted with it. Al used to beat his ass when he was a kid. It was not the best father-son relationship.

        And Jimi actually had more than just a month to use Electric Lady studios. The "official" grand opening bash was August 26th. The last 'recording' session he was on was just a few days before. But Studio A become operational enough for him to begin recording by June 8. So he at least got in about 2 1/2 months. As it was, the studio needed to make money to pay for it's construction, so the staff began booking outside clients. There were a few times Jimi had to leave because there were outside bookings and it infuriated him. His opinion was that it was HIS studio and having to leave so others could use it was defeating the purpose of owning it.

        Alan Douglas really pulled some fucking bullshit in the 70s, that is for sure.
        Reportedly, Hendrix was recording at times to the point of exhaustion after Studio A became operational. Throughout the summer of 1970, the Experience Mark 2 (Hendrix, Mitchell, Cox) would try to gig on the weekends, thus making time available during the week for Hendrix to record as often as he wanted or could.

        There are stories about him overdubbing Room Full Of Mirrors, and being so fucked up from sheer overwork that he was suffering spasms and tremors, and a couple of his minders had to actually go into the studio, pry the guitar from his hands and force him to lay down and get some rest.

        Anything post-Electric Ladyland I kind of look at as icing applied by a different baker than the one who made the bulk of the cake. Like, First Rays Of The New Rising Sun, from what I've read, was fairly true to the basic tracks that Hendrix had managed to lay down. However, with the vast bulk of the posthumous releases there was overdubbing and mixing (to varying degrees) that took place after Hendrix died, so one can't really say these are TRULY representative of what he would have wanted them to sound like.

        Pretty prolific artist, nonetheless.
        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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        • Mr Badguy
          Full Member Status

          • Jan 2004
          • 3565

          #19
          I still don`t understand why they overdubbed Buddy Miles drums on "Stepping stone" and "Room full of mirrors".

          It was sanctioned by Hendrix, but IMO Mitch Mitchell wasn't playing as good as he had been or the new material didn`t suit his style.

          Alan Douglas getting that guy from The Knack to redo them again was unforgivable.

          I don`t get it, Hendrix fans want the tapes unaltered and that has to be your target market for any album so why piss them off?
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          • kissfan1976
            Head Fluffer
            • Jan 2010
            • 201

            #20
            Cool, I'll be picking up the new cd & deluxe Are You Experinced.

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