Type O Negative's Pete Steele Dead from Heart Failure?

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  • SparkieD
    Veteran
    • Sep 2006
    • 1772

    #31
    Yeah, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion however shitty it may be. To express it where people are mourning takes a gigantic "d-bag."

    I love Carnivore, probably as much, maybe even more than Type O, depends on the day. I guess you just have to take those lyrics with a grain of salt to enjoy their music. Probably why I'm not offended by the aggressive/menstruating remark.

    I prefer to remember Pete the same as you Chan, funny and gorgeous like when I saw them in '95. That image provided me with fodder for my fantasies on more than a few occasions.
    Originally posted by Tiki-Tom You're one classy tattooed bombshell in my book.
    Originally posted by rustoffa
    Three words. WE WERE THERE.

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    • BITEYOASS
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6530

      #32
      I'm glad his cover of "Summer Breeze" made that ball-less Seals & Crofts song sound fuckin awesome! :D

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      • Satan
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6664

        #33
        Originally posted by chan_bkny
        I almost got into a fight with someone on another board who said that Peter Steele was a "d-bag" (I can't even type out the entire word because its use as a pejorative is so offensive to me) in a memorial thread dedicated to the man. I hate people who hide behind the I-have-a-right-to-my-opinion excuse. It doesn't mean you can talk shit about someone who just died! But I digress.
        I saw that. god damn, it's sad how that board has gone to Heaven in a handbasket ever since the moderators started kissing the ass of a little 12 year old shit disturber who wasn't even born when the first Danzig album was recorded.

        Er, not to get off topic or anything. Believe me, all of us here in Hell were shocked when Peter showed up. We thought they were fucking around again!
        Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

        Originally posted by Sockfucker
        I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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        • hideyoursheep
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2007
          • 6351

          #34
          Originally posted by Satan
          I saw that. god damn, it's sad how that board has gone to Heaven in a handbasket ever since the moderators started kissing the ass of a little 12 year old shit disturber who wasn't even born when the first Danzig album was recorded.
          Hmmm....sounds like a red flag.

          Originally posted by Satan
          Believe me, all of us here in Hell were shocked when Peter showed up. We thought they were fucking around again!
          You might have to keep Pete and Dime separated....the 2 of them together could be trouble!

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          • hideyoursheep
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2007
            • 6351

            #35
            It appeared as if he were a little tweaked in this clip. Not too good.



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            • hideyoursheep
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2007
              • 6351

              #36
              Okay... maybe more than "a little"...like half of Columbia up his nose.

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              • SparkieD
                Veteran
                • Sep 2006
                • 1772

                #37
                Originally posted by Satan

                Er, not to get off topic or anything. Believe me, all of us here in Hell were shocked when Peter showed up. We thought they were fucking around again!

                Why is a good Catholic boy like Peter down there with you?

                An Interview with Peter Steele of Type O Negative
                By Charlie Steffens, aka Gnarly Charlie:

                ON FAITH

                “After my mother passed away last year and a couple of other things happened, I pretty much got back to my faith. I was born Roman Catholic. Believe it or not, I go tot church on Sunday and I do read the Bible. But I don’t read it as a how to live your life book. I read it as if I have a question I can open any page. If you’re open minded you will get the answer from a passage. And you will get a different answer if you read the same passage but it will still be just as worthy. “

                “I went to confession for the first time in 30 years. And the priest was very happy that I had come back to church and stuff. I didn’t go into each and every sin otherwise he would have to take two weeks vacation (laughs). I said ‘Father I did wrong and I want o apologize to God for my behavior and I’m going to try for it to not happen again.’ It’s better to pay in this life then in the afterlife. So he said “well, make a large donation to your favorite charity, which I did. I’m not going to tell you which charity it was or how much, because that really started me thinking about these so-called charitable people. Charity should be anonymous. If you’re going to get a pat on the back for doing…”Oh, you’re such a great guy. You gave five million dollars—even though you have 50 billion—to South Africa. You’re a great fuckin’ guy.” So I donated my money anonymously and when I had reformed Carnivore I had asked the guys to do just one thing for me. And that was to make a donation anonymously. ‘Don’t tell me, just please, that’s all I’m asking you to do.’ It’s never dome up again and I trust they have. You shouldn’t get a pat on the back for fuckin’ doing the right thing. You should always be doing that. In a great world people would treat each other the way they would like to be treated. My mother always told me if I really didn’t wan to do something, if I was really tired, but if I had helped someone and I really went out of my way for them but I asked nothing for it, that I should donate my energy to the souls in purgatory—meaning that to give my goodness to those who are trapped. This is purgatory/limbo. This is a very Catholic thing that very few people really understand. I just feel that if you always do the right thing in you’re heart, number one, you’re going to get fucked…there’s no doubt. But after death, I think there’s a better place.“

                FORGIVENESS AND REDEMPTION

                “I’m not radically different, but I am different. I’ve made a lot of mistakes and some of the mistakes I’ve made involve other people. When I get the opportunity I do apologize to them. Sometimes it’s not an easy thing to do and sometimes they don’t accept my apology, which is very painful. I ask why. Sometimes they just don’t want to talk about it. I can accept that, but at least I went. There’s a difference between apologizing and saying you’re sorry. An apology means that you’ve thought about your actions and you think ‘Man, I was a real fuckin’ scumbag. I was an asshole. She didn’t deserve that. He didn’t deserve that. And I just really want to tell her that I’m sorry.’ And I also want to tell her how it’s not going to happen again. I believe that part of being a Christian is forgiveness. I’m not here to preach. I’m here to warn, more or less. Beautifully, once or twice, a couple of the people who did not accept my apology at first have contacted me and said they thought about my actions and they do accept my apology. I was very grateful, and all I can say to them is ‘The only way I can really make this up to you is by not repeating my behavior.’ I’m still human. I still fuck up. I still sometimes instinctively utilize this same shitty behavior. But a true sin is any action that hurts you, someone or something with forethought and malice. I’ve never really gone out of my way to fuck somebody over, to hurt them. There have been times that I was disrespectful and I was irresponsible. I was a dick. We all make mistakes but I’m very happy that I have the opportunity to apologize for mine. I feel that God will not forgive man until man forgives man.”

                HEAVEN AND HELL

                “Let’s put it this way. I would find it very hard to believe that Adolph Hitler and Mother Teresa are going to the same place. I guess it’s comforting to believe in some sort of justice. My definition of God is attempting to put a face on physics, mathematics, and chemistry that we have yet to understand. That is my God. Something had to create everything. I lie in bed awake at night freaking myself out. Thinking about going somewhere forever, with the clouds, the harps, the angels, the wings. St. Peter had a secret, and.St. Peter one time questioned God. And he had no right to question God, but God allowed him. God said, ‘Alright. What’s the question?’ If you are so merciful…if you know everything, and you create your children that you know are going to wind up in Hell—why would you bother creating them? And the answer was ‘Because Hell does not last forever’. No one goes to Hell forever. It’s like a waiting room, a Godless place. And Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others.’”

                ON CHARITY

                “God does not like actors. It has to be heartfelt. I shouldn’t tell you this because it’s almost contradicting myself, but one of the examples of doing some sort of charity anonymously is on my block there are quite a few old people. When it snows I shovel their walk and they have no idea who shovels their walk. Now, I’m not looking for a pat on the back, I’m just trying to make an example. One day I’ll be 75 and maybe somebody will do that for me. That would make me cry.“

                PROPHECY

                “The closer I get back to God, the more temptation comes my way. As psychotic as this might sound, I have pretty much been told that I am the prophet of doom. I know the date of the end of the world. How do I know so? Because, I’ve been told so. Did I hear a voice? No, I did not. But…there are three others like me. We know of each other, but we do not know each other. I know it and I know what’s going to happen and I am to point out the signs. This is the Seventh Seal. At this point, if this last sign is not acknowledged, God will no longer forgive man and then there will be Hell on Earth. Earth is Heaven, already, without the bullshit, and at the very end, the good thing is, that God will even forgive Satan.”

                “Ever since I have come back to my faith, such incredibly strange things have been happening. Ten times a day if I ask God for a sign, through numbers and letters I will get it. I believe that God speaks to everyone in a way that only that person can understand, but I have been enlightened…you have to ask to be enlightened. I ask these questions and I get the answers. I don’t hear God’s voice. That satisfies me.”

                “When I said I have hit rock bottom, it’s not in a bad way--it’s in a good way. I’ve found piece on something solid and now I know what the meaning of life. I’ve always thought that the meaning of life was to try to find something to live for. Now I realize, all this time, it is finding something to die for. It’s been right there all the time I will die for my faith. I am going to. I know it.”

                “When I do interviews and I lie about everything, people think I’m so serious. When I tell the truth they think it’s hysterical. Who’s going to believe you with the things I have said? I believe myself. Print whatever you want. No one will believe it, I’m sure.”
                Originally posted by Tiki-Tom You're one classy tattooed bombshell in my book.
                Originally posted by rustoffa
                Three words. WE WERE THERE.

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                • Satan
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6664

                  #38
                  Originally posted by SparkieD
                  Why is a good Catholic boy like Peter down there with you?



                  “The closer I get back to God, the more temptation comes my way. As psychotic as this might sound, I have pretty much been told that I am the prophet of doom. I know the date of the end of the world. How do I know so? Because, I’ve been told so. Did I hear a voice? No, I did not. But…there are three others like me. We know of each other, but we do not know each other. I know it and I know what’s going to happen and I am to point out the signs. This is the Seventh Seal. At this point, if this last sign is not acknowledged, God will no longer forgive man and then there will be Hell on Earth. Earth is Heaven, already, without the bullshit, and at the very end, the good thing is, that God will even forgive Satan.”
                  That's why. Apparently he was sent down here to help me! Looks like I'm going back to Heaven someday.
                  Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                  Originally posted by Sockfucker
                  I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #39
                    I like the way they worked The Munsters theme in there.

                    The "Light My Fire" cover was pretty kick-ass, too. Doubt any other band could pull it off.

                    I never knew this guy was damn near 7 feet tall...explains a lot about his voice. One of a kind.
                    Last edited by hideyoursheep; 04-23-2010, 05:10 AM.

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                    • Mr Walker
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2536

                      #40
                      I've held off really commenting on the passing of Peter Steele because I didn't quite know how to articulate my thoughts and feeling so I'll try now...

                      As a music fan... have you ever had a band that was put into your head out of nowhere?
                      I remember being in the third grade drawing pictures of KISS before I even heard my first KISS song... before I had my first KISS album... before I saw them for the first time on the Paul Lynde Halloween Special. Now, I'm not going to argue the fact that I must have at least seen a picture in a magazine or heard 'Rock And Roll All Nite' on the radio, but the point is that I was a fan before I knew what I was a fan of.
                      Well, I had the same experience with Type O Negative. Before I heard my first Type O song, saw my first Type O video... the band was in my head and I was a fan before I knew what I was a fan of. Again, maybe I flipped past them in a rock magazine, maybe I heard one of their songs without knowing who they were, but they were in my head before I had them in my head. It's like a switch hit, a light went on and 'BOOM' I needed to go pick up a Type O CD and it wound up being 'Bloody Kisses' and it was everything I felt it would be and more... everything a KISS, Alice Cooper, Sabbath fan could ask for rolled into one... and was 1000x more on the mark than what Marilyn Manson was pushing to the same demographic that I was in at the time. The greatest thing about Type O (apart from the killer songs and image) was the massive contradiction that they were... scary but beautiful, light and dark, moments of bone crushing power immediately undercut by some beautiful haunting melody and then back again. Unfortunately, that contradiction was what drove me away from the band...

                      The contradiction I speak of was the man Peter Steele. I thought 'Bloody Kisses' and 'October Rust' were brilliant... but then here comes Pete saying 'We suck', 'We're no good', 'Hope you weren't disappointed'... are you fucking kidding me??? You and your band are amazing.... how could you think for a second that you suck. Then in print you would see Pete attack himself in the same way. 'I suck', 'I have no talent'. 'I'm an asshole', 'No body likes me'... on and on and on... Now, there is a certain charm in being humble... but for Pete, it was a personality disorder. I don't know about Pete's history, but I would think that perhaps at the core of his being... probably with his parents, he was made to feel inferior... never good enough... never deserving of any praise, attention or love. Pete was the alpha male in arguably one of the coolest bands in the world, but it wasn't enough to fill this void he seemed to have had. Even after his death, all you read about is how loved and admired he was... but did he ever feel it? Drugs and/or alcohol did not fill that void either... anyway, I'm kinda jumping ahead of myself. I don't know when it was, but there was an interview or something with Pete... I don't remember when, but he was more or less threatening to quit the music business and going to work for public works because he sucks and no one cares and no one really likes his band anyway... or something to that effect. Finally he convinced me... despite my belief that he was a genius, he convinced me that despite what I thought... he must suck, his band must suck... so that was it... in my head they sucked and I was done with them.

                      Quite frankly, I now feel a little cheated that with his death leading me to go back through the Type O discography and coming around again to what I new all along. They were amazing and never did they suck. I'm kinda pissed about that.
                      Then when I read the interview that Sparky posted, I took some comfort in the fact that maybe when Pete got back to his Catholic roots, he was able to start filling that void that seemed to drive him... the one that drove me, and perhaps others away from him and his art.
                      This just made his death all the more tragic. Being a Roman Catholic myself (and a frequent target of barbs thrown by a certain drunk Scotsman), I 100% reconnected with Peter through that interview... sadly I wish I had seen it sooner... before his passing.
                      I hope he is in a peaceful place... and along with other loved ones who have passed, when life presents me with painful situations... be it physical and emotional, I will be offering my pain toward the ultimate peace of those in the afterlife.

                      Thanks for everything Pete!
                      -Mr. Walker
                      Last edited by Mr Walker; 04-23-2010, 09:27 AM.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #41
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                        • Satan
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6664

                          #42
                          That episode is frequently requested on HellCable's 24 hour Jerry Springer channel.
                          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                          Originally posted by Sockfucker
                          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                          • Hardrock69
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 21897

                            #43
                            Found this killer photo just now:

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10881

                              #44
                              RIP you big nut.

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