Original line-up of Black Sabbath have reformed

[FORD]

I'll bet you have a copy of the Jeff Fenholt demos, don't you?

[twonabomber]

some weird label called Hollywood Records

Hollywood Records = Disney.

[Hardrock69]

I have just about all the demos available in bootleg form from the 1980s and some from the 90s. Jeff Fenholdt sessions, stuff with Ray Gillen, Dehumanizer demos. More than I can recall off the top of my head.

[Terry]

Anyone notice that Geezer doesn't seem too thrilled about this reunion?

He seemed a bit understated at the press conference, but who knows? I mean, it felt like Heaven and Hell still had some juice left in them, then sadly RJD passed away...and honestly Ozzy these days doesn't have much to offer besides his reality show notoriety. This type of fame is useful in terms of making a media splash, but all those histrionics don't necessarily translate into creative energy in terms of actually writing songs.

Having said all that, it'll be interesting to hear what the band can come up with. Iommi, Geezer and Ward still have the potential to create something special that can transcend the rather lackluster musical results which have popped up on Ozzy's last several studio releases.

[sonrisa salvaje]

I have just about all the demos available in bootleg form from the 1980s and some from the 90s. Jeff Fenholdt sessions, stuff with Ray Gillen, Dehumanizer demos. More than I can recall off the top of my head.

Me too. I've even got the live disc they did with Tony Martin, all the Iommi solo stuff, and all of the Geezer. I thought the Black Science record that Geezer did was killer by the way.

[kissfan1976]

Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward has dropped a potential bombshell on the band’s recently announced original line-up reunion, stating that he will sit out of both the group’s recording sessions and tour plans unless he is offered a “signable” contract that financially reflects his contributions to the band’s history.
This is the second major new to threaten this much-hoped for reunion since the Nov. 11 announcement that Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Ward would be getting back together to record their first album since 1978′s ‘Never Say Die!’

About a month ago, Iommi revealed that he had been diagnosed with lymphoma, and although he’s hopeful for a strong recovery, reports are that at least some of the band’s 2012 tour plans have been cancelled.Ward addresses this matter sensitively and states that he’s willing to travel to the U.K. to record the album, and to go on the tour, provided he gets an agreement more to his liking.

His complete statement, as posted on his official site, is below. We’re perfectly willing to be the first to contribute to a Kickstarter account to bridge the money gap, if it means we get Sabbath back!

“Dear Sabbath Fans, Fellow Musicians and Interested Parties,
At this time, I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a “signable” contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band.

Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony, Ozzy and Geezer. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another “unsignable” contract was handed to me.

Let me say that although this has put me in some kind of holding pattern, I am packed and ready to leave the U.S. for England. More importantly, I definitely want to play on the album, and I definitely want to tour with Black Sabbath.

Since the news of Tony’s illness, and the understanding that the band would move production to the U.K., I’ve spent everyday getting to or living in a place of readiness to leave. That involves something of a task, and as I’ve tried to find out what’s going on with the U.K. sessions, I’ve realized that I’ve been getting “the cold shoulder” (and, I might add, not for the first time). Feeling somewhat ostracized, my guess is as of today, I will know nothing of what’s happening unless I sign “the unsignable contract.”

The place I’m in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on. If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician. I believe in freedom and freedom of speech. I grew up in a hard rock/metal band. We stood for something then, and we played from the heart with honesty and sincerity. I am in the spirit of integrity, far from the corporate malady, I am real and honest, fair and compassionate.

If I’m replaced, I have to face you, the beloved Sabbath fans. I hope you will not hold me responsible for the failure of an original Black Sabbath lineup as promoted. Without fault finding, I want to assure everyone that my loyalty to Sabbath is intact.
So here I am. I lay my truth down before you. I’m good to go IF I get a “signable” contract. I don’t want to let anyone down, especially Black Sabbath and all the Sabbath fans. You know I love you. It would be a sad day in Rock if this current situation fell to the desires of a few.

My position is not greed-driven. I’m not holding out for a “big piece” of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I’d like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago. After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I’ve brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning.

That’s the story so far.
Stay safe and stay strong.
I love every single one of you.
–Bill Ward

[So this is love]

Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward has dropped a potential bombshell on the band’s recently announced original line-up reunion, stating that he will sit out of both the group’s recording sessions and tour plans unless he is offered a “signable” contract that financially reflects his contributions to the band’s history.
This is the second major new to threaten this much-hoped for reunion since the Nov. 11 announcement that Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Ward would be getting back together to record their first album since 1978′s ‘Never Say Die!’

About a month ago, Iommi revealed that he had been diagnosed with lymphoma, and although he’s hopeful for a strong recovery, reports are that at least some of the band’s 2012 tour plans have been cancelled.Ward addresses this matter sensitively and states that he’s willing to travel to the U.K. to record the album, and to go on the tour, provided he gets an agreement more to his liking.

His complete statement, as posted on his official site, is below. We’re perfectly willing to be the first to contribute to a Kickstarter account to bridge the money gap, if it means we get Sabbath back!

“Dear Sabbath Fans, Fellow Musicians and Interested Parties,
At this time, I would love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour. However, I am unable to continue unless a “signable” contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band.

Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony, Ozzy and Geezer. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another “unsignable” contract was handed to me.

Let me say that although this has put me in some kind of holding pattern, I am packed and ready to leave the U.S. for England. More importantly, I definitely want to play on the album, and I definitely want to tour with Black Sabbath.

Since the news of Tony’s illness, and the understanding that the band would move production to the U.K., I’ve spent everyday getting to or living in a place of readiness to leave. That involves something of a task, and as I’ve tried to find out what’s going on with the U.K. sessions, I’ve realized that I’ve been getting “the cold shoulder” (and, I might add, not for the first time). Feeling somewhat ostracized, my guess is as of today, I will know nothing of what’s happening unless I sign “the unsignable contract.”

The place I’m in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on. If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician. I believe in freedom and freedom of speech. I grew up in a hard rock/metal band. We stood for something then, and we played from the heart with honesty and sincerity. I am in the spirit of integrity, far from the corporate malady, I am real and honest, fair and compassionate.

If I’m replaced, I have to face you, the beloved Sabbath fans. I hope you will not hold me responsible for the failure of an original Black Sabbath lineup as promoted. Without fault finding, I want to assure everyone that my loyalty to Sabbath is intact.
So here I am. I lay my truth down before you. I’m good to go IF I get a “signable” contract. I don’t want to let anyone down, especially Black Sabbath and all the Sabbath fans. You know I love you. It would be a sad day in Rock if this current situation fell to the desires of a few.

My position is not greed-driven. I’m not holding out for a “big piece” of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I’d like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago. After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I’ve brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning.

That’s the story so far.
Stay safe and stay strong.
I love every single one of you.
–Bill Ward

Sharon!!! leave some money for Ward for godsake...

[FORD]

Geezus Bill......

I'm sure he probably has a valid point about getting ripped off, but he's got to realize that if (God or Satan forbid) that Tony drops dead before this record is finished, the fans are going to demand his fucking head on a pike.

[Mr Walker]

Mike Bordin just got a boner

[vandeleur]

Give van their download slot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kissfan1976]

via RollingStone.com

Black Sabbath have responded to drummer Bill Ward's open letter pledging to leave the band unless he is presented with a "signable contract." In a statement on Facebook, Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler indicated they they will carry on with their new album and reunion tour without him. "We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans," they wrote. "We have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open...We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll...See you at Download!!!"

[Mr Walker]

via RollingStone.com

Black Sabbath have responded to drummer Bill Ward's open letter pledging to leave the band unless he is presented with a "signable contract." In a statement on Facebook, Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler indicated they they will carry on with their new album and reunion tour without him. "We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans," they wrote. "We have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open...We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll...See you at Download!!!"

Damn...

In other news... Good to see you Johnny!

[Mr Walker]

Fuck... I'm really looking forward to Kill Devil Hill.
They better not pinch Vinnie from them.

[lesfunk]

That sucks

[binnie]

He should form a band with KK Downing.......

'The Whinny Bitches'.