Were the 2000's the worst era for hard rock?
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The nice part about social networking is you can find a relatively obscure band that just kills it. It's kinda like back in the day....head to the local record shop and find an obscure import or regional band that none of your friends know about and you're the one turning them on to it!Originally posted by vandeleurE- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first placeComment
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The 90's and the 00's were pretty much a blur. Not much memorable in either decade.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I love ya binnie, but here's what I'm talking about:
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/your...ystem-down.php
If we think about 'Classic Rock' or 'Hard Rock' as a genre, wouldn't we say that most of lyrics have a pretty limited subject matter: sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll? That's no bad thing - my point is that the number of 'great' lyricists in the genre is few. DLR, Bon Scott spring immediately to mind, because they put new spins on old cliches. But for the most part, hard rock lyrics spin the same old yarns.
I actually think that the lyrics in B.Y.O.B are pretty decent. There aren't many heavy bands who would tackle the subject matter of 'Violent Pornography', and even fewer who'd write songs about the Armenian Genocide. What makes SOAD interesting is the contrasts - from war and politics to pogo sticks and banoffe pie. Unlike anyone else, really.
As for Slipknot - some of that stuff is just uncomfortable, especially the early records. Corey Taylor was on fire back then: most people won't want to listen to songs about that kind of emotional/mental strife (which is fine), but that's not the same as those bands not being talented.The Power Of The Riff Compels MeComment
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I dunno, man, I guess it's all subjective.
If we think about 'Classic Rock' or 'Hard Rock' as a genre, wouldn't we say that most of lyrics have a pretty limited subject matter: sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll? That's no bad thing - my point is that the number of 'great' lyricists in the genre is few. DLR, Bon Scott spring immediately to mind, because they put new spins on old cliches. But for the most part, hard rock lyrics spin the same old yarns.
I actually think that the lyrics in B.Y.O.B are pretty decent. There aren't many heavy bands who would tackle the subject matter of 'Violent Pornography', and even fewer who'd write songs about the Armenian Genocide. What makes SOAD interesting is the contrasts - from war and politics to pogo sticks and banoffe pie. Unlike anyone else, really.
As for Slipknot - some of that stuff is just uncomfortable, especially the early records. Corey Taylor was on fire back then: most people won't want to listen to songs about that kind of emotional/mental strife (which is fine), but that's not the same as those bands not being talented.Still waiting for a relevant Browns TeamComment
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Last edited by Golden AWe; 01-26-2012, 02:12 PM.Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?Originally posted by lesfunk
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Usually you can say that every decade has its timeless classics, and its useless crap.
In the 50's, you had Elvis, Chuck Berry, and Buddy Holly, while you also had Pat Boone and Fabian.
The 60's are remembered for The Beatles, the Stones, Hendrix, and the Doors (among others) but you also had Herman's Hermits, and countless one hit wonder bubblegum bands with dumb pseudo-psychedelic names.
The 70's - Zeppelin, Floyd, Aerosmith, Van Halen and punk rock vs all the sappy "singer-songwriter" shit the first half of the decade and the godawful disco shit in the last half.
The 80's - Once you lost Van Halen, The Police, and Black Flag all within the same year, it was all down hill from there. The late 80's had about three decent bands - U2, REM, and the 77s. Aside from that, you had hair band shit getting worse by every minute it was overexposed on eMpTyV, and the European "new wave" bands morphing into just more lame synth-disco. Best album of the late 80's (other than the previously mentioned bands) - NWA "Straight Outta Compton"
Same story in the 90's, pretty much. You had some new innovation in the first half of the decade. Then Kurt was dead, Layne might as well have been, Pearl Jam got into a fight with Ticketbastard, and by the time Soundgarden split up in 1997, there was nothing left but boyband crap and rappers who kept trying to remake "Straight Outta Compton" (and failing miserably). Garth Brooks was better than anything passing as "rock" from 1997 to 2000.
In the 2000's it has been even worse. The only decent records made have been those made by bands who were around way before 2000. Steel Panther was mentioned. What does that tell you? A parody band is better than any real band on the charts?? Some people liked The Darkness. I wasn't one of them, but then they were pretty much a parody band too.
Now here we are, 2 years into another decade, and the best albums so far have been bonus disks of "new" material on re-released old albums from The Rolling Stones and U2, and the impending release of the first album in 28 years from Van Halen, which also seems to rely heavily on material that they wrote over 30 years ago. Hopefully these records will inspire some new bands to pick up the slack, and maybe the labels will have the good sense to sign them? (Yeah, Universal Music Group - home of U2, the Stones, and Van Halen - I'm looking right at you)Eat Us And Smile
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I don't think the 2000's sucked as much as the 90's.
For a classic rock fan it was like a second golden age.
Excellent albums from Iron Maiden, Heaven & Hell, Rush, Motorhead, Journey,, Ki$$ (flame on), Rush, Alice Cooper, the list goes on.
So they might not be selling like they once did, but when did that ever mean that a record wasn't good?sigpic
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In the 2000's it has been even worse. The only decent records made have been those made by bands who were around way before 2000. Steel Panther was mentioned. What does that tell you? A parody band is better than any real band on the charts?? Some people liked The Darkness. I wasn't one of them, but then they were pretty much a parody band too.
I haven't enjoyed Lamb of God or Slipknot either. But even they have good live shows...and the better, on the festivals they may headline, there are smaller great bands to enjoy and get to know. Cheers!Last edited by Golden AWe; 01-26-2012, 03:38 PM.Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?Originally posted by lesfunk
Much like yourself as the Jim Morrison of Nazi bunker fliesComment
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I saw Lamb of God a few years back.They were actually pretty good liveI really love you baby, I love what you've got
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Surprised no one has mentioned Rob Zombie. He had three albums in the 2000's that were all pretty good: The Sinister Urge, Educated Horses, and Hellbilly Deluxe 2. He may record commercial metal, but anyone that tours with Alice Cooper is okay in my book.My karma just ran over your dogma.Comment
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Sacrament was good.Never actually heard Wrath.A few other albums I liked
Alestorm - Captain Morgan's Revenge
Children Of Bodom - Follow The Reaper
Blind Guardian - A Twist In The Myth
Anthrax - We've Come for You All
W.A.S.P. - BabylonI really love you baby, I love what you've got
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