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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32798

    #31
    I was watching an interview with Miles Copeland who has managed bands over the years and he said usually the reason bands fail has a lot to do with the talent becoming their own worst enemy. He used The Knack as his example. He said the band just screwed themselves because their egos got huge and they were impossible to work with.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58832

      #32
      Eat Us And Smile

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58832

        #33
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        I was watching an interview with Miles Copeland who has managed bands over the years and he said usually the reason bands fail has a lot to do with the talent becoming their own worst enemy. He used The Knack as his example. He said the band just screwed themselves because their egos got huge and they were impossible to work with.
        Miles didn't have anything to do with The Knack, so I'm not sure where he got that info. Not saying it's entirely false, but Doug Fieger never seemed egotistical in any video or interview I ever saw of him.

        The Knack were a victim of Capitol Records crusade to hype them as "The New Beatles". And while the band never asked for the comparison, they did play into it once it was out there, even closing their shows with a cover of "Hard Day's Night".
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32798

          #34


          I found the Miles Copeland interview. The Knack were a support group to The Police in the early days and I guess when they hit big they became real assholes. Miles used them as an example of how that kind of attitude can kill a music career.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • VHscraps
            Veteran
            • Jul 2009
            • 1867

            #35
            Originally posted by Nitro Express

            I found the Miles Copeland interview. The Knack were a support group to The Police in the early days and I guess when they hit big they became real assholes. Miles used them as an example of how that kind of attitude can kill a music career.
            Can someone send this to EVH??! I think a manager like that might be useful now! 'Hey Ed, break open the fucking archives, I need to earn my 15% and get this shit out there'.

            The only reason VH had the support of all those people back in the old days that Copeland says an act needs was because Dave, above all the others, gave of himself freely, and the press and media loved him. Even if they didn't like Van Halen's music. AVH was often with him, and for a while they made a pretty good straight man / funny man comedy duo when they did interviews.

            They never had a rapacious deal-making manager - like David Geffen, or Elliot Roberts, or Miles Copeland - who was out there doing good business for his acts. For the most of their career until '85 they had Noel Monk - I don't think he was a manager in that Miles Copeland kind of 'equal partner' sense.

            Who else had he managed before VH? He was road manager on the Sex Pistols' one US Tour - the one where they got banned almost everywhere (I think he published a book about it).
            THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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            • Terry
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 11968

              #36
              Originally posted by FORD
              Incidentally, it's the band (or the remains of the band) that uploaded the Carnegie Hall videos, so maybe this is leading up to a proper remastered DVD/BluRay release of the damn thing, which has been out of print since the LaserDisc days
              I'd snap up a dvd release of the Carnegie Hall show in a second...looked into getting a homemade dvd boot of it several years back, even paying for it if I had to, but only found a few people offering them...claiming they were burned from a LaserDisc source and then transferred to dvd (I'd actually be interested in knowing how that worked hardware-wise: LaserDisc to VHS and then to DVD, maybe?), but the people offering them wanted $75 and up per copy.

              I like The Knack, and I'm not opposed to paying for boots if I really want a show and can't get it otherwise, but I guess I wan't enough of a Knack fan to go upwards of $100 a pop.

              Plus, I've had more than a few instances where I paid good money for concert video boots, and then three years later the band (or whatever company bought the rights to the band catalog) releases an official version that is miles better in quality than the bootleg was for a fraction of the price. The recent Who 1975 show was a case in point: had to roll my eyes and laugh when I saw it in BestBuy for less than $15 bucks, considering I paid nearly double ten years ago off a bootlegger for the same show. Serves me right.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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