Just Shut The Fuck Up

[Kristy]

"Massive Influential Record" Get the fuck out of there.

[Terry]

Am I the only one with zero interest in seeing yet another twentysomething youtuber give their take on pretty much anything?

[Seshmeister]

I haven't watched it but I'm guessing they are super positive about it? There is an incongruity about these things once you watch a few and realize that they are always someone from a different demographic younger, not white is good if it's classic rock and supposedly with no knowledge of what are often pretty well known songs to everyone if only in adverts and movie soundtracks. The person or people then say how great the old bit of music is and the middle aged classic rock crowd in the comments are all delighted and subscribe because it somehow empirically scientifically proves what they know that their music is the best.

Meanwhile young ethnic makes money from the YouTube hits and it's a great arrangement not unlike a sugar daddy thing.

I make exception with a couple - an opera singer and a classical music lecturer who do at least throw in some actual music knowledge but I'm watching them less and less now I can see how the sausage is being made.

[Rikk]

I love Led Zeppelin...but for some reason, the 2nd album is one of the ones I put on the least at this point. Yes, it's great. But I'm played out on a lot of the material on that album.

I listen to PRESENCE far more...their most underrated album, in my opinion.

PHYSICAL GRAFFITI is a close second for me.

[Terry]

I'd be far more likely to listen to the catalog from Houses through ITTOD than anything from the first album through IV (maybe When The Levee Brakes once in a blue moon).

Presence is brilliant. Achillies is right up there with the best they ever did.

Can't remember the last time I heard (or wanted to hear) anything off of the first album through the third album. Played those albums out as well...outside of Levee, I don't need to hear anything off of the 4th album ever again.

Ages ago, when I'd play Presence, I'd tend to skip over Candy Store Rock. Now, I enjoy the fuck out of that track.

I will say neither The Crunge nor D'yer Mak'er have gotten any better with age.

[Rikk]

I'd be far more likely to listen to the catalog from Houses through ITTOD than anything from the first album through IV (maybe When The Levee Brakes once in a blue moon).

Presence is brilliant. Achillies is right up there with the best they ever did.

Can't remember the last time I heard (or wanted to hear) anything off of the first album through the third album. Played those albums out as well...outside of Levee, I don't need to hear anything off of the 4th album ever again.

Ages ago, when I'd play Presence, I'd tend to skip over Candy Store Rock. Now, I enjoy the fuck out of that track.

I will say neither The Crunge nor D'yer Mak'er have gotten any better with age.

Couldn't agree more.

While I feel that every Zep album is great, I'm just played out on so much of the earlier stuff.

If I listen to DAZED AND CONFUSED, I listen to THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME version...

PRESENCE is my favorite Zep album. I love every song. I even love CANDY STORE ROCK now. ACHILLES is a masterpiece. And HOTS ON FROM NOWHERE is one of my favorite Zep songs ever.

I even love IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR. Not every song is perfect, but IN THE EVENING is a classic and I'M GONNA CRAWL is severely underrated.

CODA is another I put on a lot. I love WALTER'S WALK.

And yes...the two songs I still do not like on HOUSES are D'YER MAKER and THE CRUNGE. I cannot believe they cut the song HOUSES OF THE HOLY, THE ROVER or WALTER'S WALK and put those two songs instead.

[FORD]

Never really cared for "The Crunge". It was the most goddamned "disco" thing Zeppelin ever did... at least until "Carouselambra", which was even worse.

[Terry]

Never really cared for "The Crunge". It was the most goddamned "disco" thing Zeppelin ever did... at least until "Carouselambra", which was even worse.

Carouselambra was...okay...

For ages, I could never make out what the lyrics were. Once I found out what the lyrics were, I appreciated the song more.

[Terry]

Couldn't agree more.

While I feel that every Zep album is great, I'm just played out on so much of the earlier stuff.

If I listen to DAZED AND CONFUSED, I listen to THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME version...

PRESENCE is my favorite Zep album. I love every song. I even love CANDY STORE ROCK now. ACHILLES is a masterpiece. And HOTS ON FROM NOWHERE is one of my favorite Zep songs ever.

I even love IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR. Not every song is perfect, but IN THE EVENING is a classic and I'M GONNA CRAWL is severely underrated.

CODA is another I put on a lot. I love WALTER'S WALK.

And yes...the two songs I still do not like on HOUSES are D'YER MAKER and THE CRUNGE. I cannot believe they cut the song HOUSES OF THE HOLY, THE ROVER or WALTER'S WALK and put those two songs instead.

I love Hots On For Nowhere.

In Through The Out Door is a spotty album to my ears. Always has been. I think what resonates for me about the album is lyrically it is one of the more accessible Zeppelin efforts. I'm assuming much of that was the result of Plant's son dying a couple years before, where the songs on ITTOD largely eschew lyrics concerning themselves with hypersexualized cocksmanship, Middle Ages Fables Of Yore, mystical epics and the like, all of which were subjects more than amply covered on previous albums. In the Evening was a classic, agreed. All My Love was a beautiful, slow bittersweet paean. Once it got past that sugar-laden synth intro, I'm Gonna Crawl was stripped-down, raw emotion. The rest of the album (including Fool In The Rain) ran the gamut from mediocre to disposable by Zep standards.

Walter's Walk was a standout on CODA. Probably Wearing And Tearing would be my own favorite track. The rest? Eh...I suppose all of it was close to the best of what Zep had left in the can ready to go in the immediate years after Bonham died. Frankly, I thought the Travelling Riverside Blues track that came out with the early 1990s box set was a bit superior to the contents of CODA, as was the Swan Song demo.

[FORD]

In Through The Out Door seemed to be Zeppelin having some sort of "identity crisis". If they had known it would be their last true album, maybe they would have made more of an effort to make a genuine rock record out of it. Instead you got this weird mishmash of things with a 10 minute disco song, (Carouselambra), a country song which could have come right out of Nashville (Hot Dog) a 6 minute love song (All of my Love) and even the rock songs had a shit load of synthesizers in them. Bonzo probably saved a lot of those songs with his drumming.... it was the only "Zeppelin" thing about some of them.

Travelling Riverside Blues was apparently a live cut from a BBC session in the early 70s. Used to hear that all the time on KISW, long before the box set came out, as well as Hey Hey What Can I Do which was a non-album b-side from the Zeppelin III era (actually have that 45 somewhere). I was actually surprised those two songs weren't on the original relase of Coda in 1982, but were later added to one of the multiple remastered editions.

[Rikk]

Never really cared for "The Crunge". It was the most goddamned "disco" thing Zeppelin ever did... at least until "Carouselambra", which was even worse.

Y'know, THE CRUNGE could have worked if they had used real horns instead of the terrible keyboard part...AND if it had passable vocals. Plant's vocals on that song are just awful.

CAROUSELAMBRA is an acquired taste. A lot of people write it off. Yes, it has a disco vibe...but there are some great riffs and chords in there. Jones' keyboard sounds date it, definitely. But I have to admit that I like the song. (And Terry is right: once one reads the lyric sheet, the song becomes a lot more interesting.)

[Rikk]

In Through The Out Door seemed to be Zeppelin having some sort of "identity crisis". If they had known it would be their last true album, maybe they would have made more of an effort to make a genuine rock record out of it. Instead you got this weird mishmash of things with a 10 minute disco song, (Carouselambra), a country song which could have come right out of Nashville (Hot Dog) a 6 minute love song (All of my Love) and even the rock songs had a shit load of synthesizers in them. Bonzo probably saved a lot of those songs with his drumming.... it was the only "Zeppelin" thing about some of them.

It's definitely a transition album. It's them trying something new. You can definitely hear some of the elements of Plant's solo career in it (though his debut is actually far more of a guitar album). But I still think ALL MY LOVE, IN THE EVENING and I'm GONNA CRAWL are all top-tier Zep songs. I don't think SOUND BOUND SAUREZ is amazing, but I enjoy it. And I do enjoy CAROUSELAMBRA. My least-favorite track on it, funny enough, isn't HOT DOG. It's FOOL IN THE RAIN. That song just does nothing for me.

[Rikk]

Travelling Riverside Blues was apparently a live cut from a BBC session in the early 70s. Used to hear that all the time on KISW, long before the box set came out, as well as Hey Hey What Can I Do which was a non-album b-side from the Zeppelin III era (actually have that 45 somewhere). I was actually surprised those two songs weren't on the original relase of Coda in 1982, but were later added to one of the multiple remastered editions.

Yeah, TRAVELLING RIVERSIDE BLUES was one of their BBC SESSIONS songs. And, funny enough, in the entire Zeppelin catalog, it's one of my most listened-to Zeppelin songs. The riff and the groove are exquisite.

I've never been huge on HEY HEY WHAT CAN I DO for some reason. I can understand why it was left off ZEPPELIN III (but I still like it more than HATS OFF TO ROY HARPER).

A few of the tracks off the Zeppelin reissues in the mid-2010s were quite good. I'd heard SUGAR MAMA years earlier on bootleg, but it sounds great on the CODA remaster. BABY COME ON HOME (which came out in 1993) is also an interesting outtake from the first album.

What's funny about CODA is three of the most hard-rocking tracks on it were the IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR outtakes. If they'd replaced FOOL IN THE RAIN and one or two other tracks and put WEARING AND TEARING (one of the band's heaviest songs ever) and the others, they probably would have gotten a better reception for that album.

[Rikk]

Walter's Walk was a standout on CODA. Probably Wearing And Tearing would be my own favorite track. The rest? Eh...I suppose all of it was close to the best of what Zep had left in the can ready to go in the immediate years after Bonham died. Frankly, I thought the Travelling Riverside Blues track that came out with the early 1990s box set was a bit superior to the contents of CODA, as was the Swan Song demo.

Interestingly, Bonham and Page were the least-happy with ITTOD. They both declared to each other that the next album (which never happened) would have been more of a hard rock outing.

Still absolutely sucks that Bonham died.

[Kristy]

I can't believe I'm reading this crap. Schleppy were not "influential" they were plagiarist criminals.