Fair Warning Re-visited

[Terry]

Originally posted by Rikk
Thanks for the very kind words, Terry. Seriously...that's some really cool shit and I appreciate it, brother.

I now raise my glass to you.

Roth on, brother!

Right back atcha, but the thanks goes to you. Reading your reviews is a pure pleasure.

[secrets]

Originally posted by Panamark
Damn, Ive incited the curiosty demon !!!

I bet it's the chorus from Hear about it Later. That reminds me a bit of a Rolling Stones song but I can't remember the name of it.

Fair Warning is what it's all about. The strongest album along with their first.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by secrets
I bet it's the chorus from Hear about it Later. That reminds me a bit of a Rolling Stones song but I can't remember the name of it.

Fair Warning is what it's all about. The strongest album along with their first.

"I don't wanna hear about it later"

"Let's spend the night together"

Yup. It is almost exactly the same. LOL.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Terry
Right back atcha, but the thanks goes to you. Reading your reviews is a pure pleasure.

Thanks bro! I'll write off another one in maybe a month.

[secrets]

Originally posted by Rikk
"I don't wanna hear about it later"

"Let's spend the night together"

Yup. It is almost exactly the same. LOL.

Yeah that could be it. Still love that song all the same.

[SweetSecrets]

Rikk! You need to print that post, frame it, and send it to all the Rock encyclopedia publishers. That is so awesome. Well written!

Did you major in journalism?

Hehehe!

Rock and roll.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by Rikk
"I don't wanna hear about it later"

"Let's spend the night together"

Yup. It is almost exactly the same. LOL.

wow..

very cool

[diamondsgirl]

and congrats Rikk on 100 votes

*****

[RogueHorseman]

Probably the most famous case was George Harrison being sued, and losing, for the melody of "My Sweet Lord" being too close to the old Chiffons song "He's So Fine".

If you really look at it note for note, you can see it. But listening, even after knowing the fact, I never quite heard it. George always maintained that while it may have been true, it was absolutely unintentional. Simply a case of him being influenced by the song, which happens to all artists, naturally.

Similar lyrics is kind of a different realm than melodies, but I did catch the line from Hear About It Later right away being a big Stones junkie and all.

The thing that gets me is how common the blatant, out and out rip off of classic melodies and riffs is today. Not talking about royalty paid sampling, either... I hear it all the time, bits and pieces all over the place, and they knowingly get away with it.

All "new" music is borrowed and expanded upon from what came before, of course, but the little sh*ts flat out stealing stirs me up.

[aesop]

[i]
All "new" music is borrowed and expanded upon from what came before, of course, but the little sh*ts flat out stealing stirs me up. [/B]

Hey where would Vanilla Ice be without Queen?

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by RogueHorseman
Similar lyrics is kind of a different realm than melodies, but I did catch the line from Hear About It Later right away being a big Stones junkie and all.

Obviously, one can hear the influence of The Rolling Stones in Van Halen... and in lots of Roth's solo work, as well.

The Zeppelin connection is often attached to Fair Warning, and I don't deny it one second, but to me I have always heard a lot of Stones influence on FW, too.

Not to discount it is generally "darker" than most anything The Stones released, but the basic backbeat throughout and Ed's tone harkens back to Sticky Fingers, etc. if you ask me.

Anyone else?

[Halen High]

Thanks again Rikk!

I probably listen to Fair Warning more than any other Van Halen album theses days. I love the heavy, funky kind of groove they came up with. I think 'One Foot Out the Door' is underated. So cool how Eddie just takes off with the solo and ends the song that way. He was untouchable then.

I think the artwork for the album is one of the coolest ever. Imagine teenagers taking that album home and their parents seeing the cover resting on the speakers as 'Mean Street' blasts out. A dangerous band indeed!

[Halen High]

Originally posted by RogueHorseman
Obviously, one can hear the influence of The Rolling Stones in Van Halen... and in lots of Roth's solo work, as well.

The Zeppelin connection is often attached to Fair Warning, and I don't deny it one second, but to me I have always heard a lot of Stones influence on FW, too.

Not to discount it is generally "darker" than most anything The Stones released, but the basic backbeat throughout and Ed's tone harkens back to Sticky Fingers, etc. if you ask me.

Anyone else?

'Push Comes to Shove' reminds me of a Stones song on 'Tattoo You'. Can't think what it's called now, could be 'Just Waiting on a Friend' Is that on there? Same kind of vibe.

FW is certainly a darker album than VH's previous work. Kind of captures the moment of the transition from the 'sunshine and optimism' of the mid-late 70s to the explosion of urban crime and violence of the early 80s.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Halen High
'Push Comes to Shove' reminds me of a Stones song on 'Tattoo You'. Can't think what it's called now, could be 'Just Waiting on a Friend' Is that on there? Same kind of vibe.

Well, I hear what you are saying, but both Tattoo You and Fair Warning were released in 81, so...

Give a listen to "Bitch" from Sticky Fingers, followed by "Unchained" sometime.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by SweetSecrets
Rikk! You need to print that post, frame it, and send it to all the Rock encyclopedia publishers. That is so awesome. Well written!

Did you major in journalism?

Hehehe!

Rock and roll.

Thanks so much, doll. Truly...thanks.

I enjoy writing. I'm actually going to Teacher's College later this year, so I suppose it will go to some use!

Thanks again for the kind words! You rock!