Shit these people are fucking STUPID!!!

[Jimmy Jingles]

I thought that Jesus would have posted by now...

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
another problem I have with Chrisitanity is when they state that non-Christians will go to 'hell'.....

they also say that we will all be judged by God.....

they also say that God is a perfect being....

but if God sends other religions to hell, just because they're not Christian, then he can't be perfect.....he must be a favoritist or an elitist....and that must be a flaw....

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
And if any Christian tells you that you will go to Hell because of something, just remind them that their faith has it laid out that no man is above the diety they have chosen and that only that diety can make the choice of who goes where. They can not believe in something or not favor something, but to tell someone flat out that they'll go to Hell is wrong.

To add -- the thought comes not that God is favoritist or any of that, but that is is a rule of the faith to keep holy the day set aside for rest and to give credit where credit is due -- the whole going to church thing, spending a day out of the week reflecting on your faith and all that. This goes in step with the whole picking who your diety is. For Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, it's God/Abba/Allah. It's the same guy. But for a Buddist and a Christian, two different things; No shared diety. So for one of these funamentalist Christians, it's you pick God/Jesus and if you don't, you're going to hell. But with that, just like I said in the quote, I tell those fundamentalists that it's not my job to judge who is wrong on this Earth. I live my life best to the teachings and insight given to me thru my Lord and my theological study and leave it be to a Higher Authority. But some people won't stop and all you can do is wish them the best and try not to let them give you the wrong impression of all the others who are not like this. I think that's what hurts me, sometimes, in all of this -- that people like to group everyone who has chosen a denomination of Christianity in this group and the ones who honestly try to be the best they can get punished for the bad seeds.

[Hardrock69]

Haha....no it is not YOUR job to judge, Alley, it is the FUNDAMENTALIST'S job LMAO!!!

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
the whole going to church thing, spending a day out of the week reflecting on your faith and all that. This goes in step with the whole picking who your diety is. For Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, it's God/Abba/Allah.

I point blank refuse to set aside a day each week to listening to Abba.

I guess a lot of gay guys are going to be saved by accident though which is kind of ironic...

[Seshmeister]

What pisses me off is the almost uniquely American creationist bullshit where they try and set Darwin up as as alternative Christ figure, use the word theory a lot and then fight the argiment on that basis. Its just so fucking stupid. It's like saying that there is no gravity because Newton had a theory on it or because Newton couldn't build a space shuttle then he's full of shit.

It skips over 100 years of science. The evidence for evolution is overwhelming but if a lot of people in the US want to go for the medieval pretend shit like the nutcase muslims then that's fine. Sit back and watch while all the multinationals move their Bio Chem research to Europe. Suits me, it'll help pay my pension.

If you are happy to let superstitions hold your country back like the Islamic countries don't worry. Just like DNA or the World Wide Web we'll do it for you and you can continue to borrow trillions from China and ban science in favor of invisible friends. We'll find the cure for cancer and sell it back to you.

Cheers!

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Seshmeister


If you are happy to let superstitions hold your country back like the Islamic countries don't worry. Just like DNA or the World Wide Web we'll do it for you and you can continue to borrow trillions from China and ban science in favor of invisible friends. We'll find the cure for cancer and sell it back to you.

Cheers!

Somebody needs to tell that to Chimpy.... The U.S. is SOOOOO dropping the ball on things like stem-cell research.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by binnie
I reiterate that I have no problemwith Christianity or any other relgion, the problem I have is with fundamentalism.

well, religion can do some good....but I just hate fundamentalists who don't think of thinks reasonably....

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
To add -- the thought comes not that God is favoritist or any of that, but that is is a rule of the faith to keep holy the day set aside for rest and to give credit where credit is due -- the whole going to church thing, spending a day out of the week reflecting on your faith and all that. This goes in step with the whole picking who your diety is. For Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, it's God/Abba/Allah. It's the same guy. But for a Buddist and a Christian, two different things; No shared diety. So for one of these funamentalist Christians, it's you pick God/Jesus and if you don't, you're going to hell. But with that, just like I said in the quote, I tell those fundamentalists that it's not my job to judge who is wrong on this Earth. I live my life best to the teachings and insight given to me thru my Lord and my theological study and leave it be to a Higher Authority. But some people won't stop and all you can do is wish them the best and try not to let them give you the wrong impression of all the others who are not like this. I think that's what hurts me, sometimes, in all of this -- that people like to group everyone who has chosen a denomination of Christianity in this group and the ones who honestly try to be the best they can get punished for the bad seeds.

I'm not blaming Christianity for the faults of a couple of fundamentalists....I just think young kids shouldn't be forced to believe a certain religion....which gives birth to more fundamentalists....

I wonder if Jesus ever came back and saw Christianity today, I wonder if he'd approve?

not that I fully believe in the second coming.....

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
I wonder if Jesus ever came back and saw Christianity today, I wonder if he'd approve?

Propably not. One look, and he'd hit "delete".

[BITEYOASS]

I met my fiancee off the DLRML website, no BS!

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by jhale667
Somebody needs to tell that to Chimpy.... The U.S. is SOOOOO dropping the ball on things like stem-cell research.

Biosciences is going to be bigger than IT is now in the next 10-30 years.

[BITEYOASS]

damnit wrong thread

[kathleenvh]

"their bones were scattered by Satan on earth to confuse people"

LMFAO

[jhale667]

Originally posted by kathleenvh
"their bones were scattered by Satan on earth to confuse people"

LMFAO

Funny yet sad...that's another cop-out zealots use when confronted with logic...anything that doesn't fit their agenda is "the work of Satan".....

[FORD]

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[Ellyllions]

To this day, my parents believe that the entire dinosaur thing is an elaborate plan by science to turn people away from God. They don't believe that dinosaurs ever existed in any form, nor do they believe that the earth is millions of years old.

It's a little scary actually, to know that over the years I don't believe the way they do nor will I ever be able to convince them otherwise. Growing up, I strayed further and further away from their belief system...and Daddy used to tell me, "The educated shall become as fools..." Meaning that the more education I got, the less I'd believe in God's ways. Not true at all.

Things that have ALWAYS bothered me is that their religion makes them seperatists amongst us all.

-They don't believe in swearing on a Bible. Even to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth". Which leaves them sometimes as victims refusing to defend themselves in a court of law. That makes the door wide open for "Christian persecution" views. See Revelations.

-"The meek shall inherit the earth" to them means that they need to stay poor to know God. BUT, they don't believe that Heaven is here on earth. So that interpretation is an oxymoron in terms.

-The staying poor thing goes on with sermons of walking on streets of pure gold...shows aspirations of riches after judgement. Bitterness, jealousy...but holding themselves down to attain it...resentment?

-Staying as uneducated as possible because it will turn you away from God. Dad was real hard on me when I decided to send myself to college. He refused to help me at all because he honestly thought that it was an unGodly thing to do.

I equate the entire thing to the message of God being lost in translation and the struggle of the potential power that man could achieve with masses following religion. Even my grandfather knew that there were many books kept away from the public for one reason or another.

I don't believe that God will punish me for trying to better myself through education. I don't believe that I have to be poor now to get to Heaven later. I do believe that Dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Doesn't the Bible speak of "Dragons"? And I don't believe that defending myself in court will send me to Hell.

I believe that the real problem with the way my parents believe is that it focuses on trivial things. I believe the saving or condemning of the soul goes much deeper. I don't know when judgement happens, only the dead know that and they're not telling.

The rest of it is all about the inability to have faith. Real faith. Some people need harsh rules, threats, and structure to cling to in order to behave. And those are the ones who are adamant about making a big stink over traditional values. They don't have enough faith to just quietly believe what they believe. It isn't real to them unless they have an army of people who agree with them.

That's poision.