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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #76
    But now he's dead, and for all we know you killed him.....

    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #77
      A refresher course for those who may of forgot.



      The term 'Internet troll', originated in a comparison with the angler who 'trolled' a trailing bait to catch a fish. But for non-anglers, the mental image of a troll is the slabby, thick, moss-laded creature of Scandinavian folk lore, further popularised by Terry Pratchett in the Discworld novels, and J. K. Rowling in the Harry Potter books. This sad figure of fun lived under bridges and stratles the unwary, but is easily outsmarted by anyone with any intelligence, or a small dog.

      The truth is somewhere between the two.

      Habitat
      The Internet doesn't have ancient slimey stone bridges, but trolls lurk around in quiet corners of the internet; while they can pop up almost anywhere, they thrive in distant relatively uninhabited corners.

      Social Interaction
      Trolls don't have friends. On the internet, because they interact with human beings, they can convince themselves that they are important, the centre of the universe - that, to them, is better than any friendship. Don't foget, the troll thinks he is always right, and therefore better than other folk. In real life, exactly the opposite applies. the troll has no friends and virtually no interaction with other people.

      If he's a teen (many are), then he lives in his bedroom, trolling, playong computer games with 'friends' (who he doesn't know at all), and joining roleplay sites, where - of course - he is a hero, or a powerful villain, who is respected in an inverse ratio to the respect he feels for himself.

      If he's an adult, then he has serious social issues. He may work, where people think he's a weirdo, and avoid him, he may sponge off his parents or be 'looking for work', which means he blames everyone for his problems. Except himself.

      Most people who are out of work are nothing like the stereotype; most want to work, and gain their self respect through work and being part of the world; but the troll IS the stereotype whining scrounger, to whom the world owes a living.

      Sex Life
      Almost every troll is male; I don't know why this is.

      The troll has few social skills, and most have never had a girlfriend, many never will.

      There's a clear pattern among trolls; they are much more likely to ignore posts known to be from women. And when they do respond to women, they are much more likely to be brief, abusive, condescending and patronising.

      This is almost certainly more due to fear than misogyny - they just don't know any women. Except Mom. But their attitude rather reduces their chances of reproducing, which is probably a good thing.

      Mental Health
      It would be easy to dismiss trolls as mentally ill. Easy and wrong. Most would not score significantly on mental illness assessments. But most are simply immature. Fair enough in a teenager, and they have a chance of growing out of it (though the longer they leave it, the harder they may find it to break the habit). But in adults, it's simply sad.

      Once upon a time, they would have been called 'inadequate psychopaths'; attention seeking loners, forever feeling sorry for themselves, but too bone idle to lift themselves out of their self-selected mire. Some live in a fantasy world, and find it hard to concentrate on real life; they can't make eye contact, and will say just about anything, frequently contradicting a previous statement.

      Intelligence
      Most trolls are pretty thick. Let's face it, it doesn'ttake much intelligence to sus out that the troll life is a pretty pathetic one, and given the choice, even a gerbil would choose a more rewarding lifestyle.

      Technique
      You don't have to be highly intelligent to be an angler, though some would say that it's difficult to be a successful angler without intelligence. Trolls have all the basic skills, and some are successful, though this is often due to negligence by their victims.

      Bait
      Trolls lay a variety of baits. The real idiots go for single lines, such as religious bigotry in religious groups, overt misogynism in nurses' groups, and mind blowing subtly, such as "BILL GATES SUCKS" in microsoft support groups. Darwin tells us that if they get a response at that level, then why would they bother to expend what little brain power they have on a better post?

      If basic bait fails, then the troll may use a variety of techniques, from sheer twaddle to mild insults, from a controversial view to completely irrelevant questions. Anything to get a response. The human flaw in a troll is a failure to tell the diference between "any response" and "approval". So insulting them merely encourages them. Invariably.

      Playing the Fish
      The skilled troll will then focus on a key responder; possibly the rudest, possibly not - but the one the troll thinks is most likley to keep responding. At this stage, other responders may be ignored. But if the original target drops out, then troll may turn to others. few trolls bother to play more than one sucker at a time. They can always come back later.

      Tickling the Trout
      Experienced trolls do not respond at random. Once they have a sucker in their sites, they control the conversation. One post may elicit a long, detailed and perfectly reasonable response, but that is not what the troll wants. So they'll often complete ignore the main argument (which they started!), and focus on one careless detail - a date wrong, a misspelling ofr their next attack. And then the same trick again. And again, so long as the sucker responds.

      Explosives
      When all else fails, the troll will do just what lazy anglers do: they'll drop explosives in the water, clean up and go home. The failed troll can be very abusive indeed.

      Weaknesses
      Trolls have no life, no power; but by manipulating others, even if for just a couple of exchanges, they have control.

      If they can catch an acknowledged expert, so much the better for them.

      There's no need ever to get caught by a troll, though it is amusing to see Mensa members frothing at the mouth.

      Exploit their weaknesses, as they'd exploit yours.



      Attention Need
      Trolls are nothing without attention, just a monster under the bed. While the first post may be camoflaged, it really doesn't take rocket science to identify an active troll. The best response from fellow members of the group is simply to ignore it. And the best response from moderators is to delete their membership; quickly and cleanly, with no negotiation or second chance. The group is more important than one idiot.

      Socially Inept
      Trolls have no self respect and low self esteem, and cannot cope with normal human interaction; start with a bit of flattery, and they may be stuck for a response. Even if they recover, they will not able to react appropriately, which should convince everyone of their trollism.

      Trolls foucus on their target, not the issue; additonally, most trolls can only pick on one person at a time. This leaves them wide open to paralysis when you talk about them, but not to them.

      Published September 2008
      Link
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302

        #78
        Jesus, that was scary! How that could so accurately describe si-gar is amazing.

        Social Interaction
        Trolls don't have friends. On the internet, because they interact with human beings, they can convince themselves that they are important, the centre of the universe - that, to them, is better than any friendship. Don't foget, the troll thinks he is always right, and therefore better than other folk. In real life, exactly the opposite applies. the troll has no friends and virtually no interaction with other people.
        Socially Inept
        Trolls have no self respect and low self esteem, and cannot cope with normal human interaction; start with a bit of flattery, and they may be stuck for a response. Even if they recover, they will not able to react appropriately, which should convince everyone of their trollism.

        Trolls foucus on their target, not the issue; additonally, most trolls can only pick on one person at a time. This leaves them wide open to paralysis when you talk about them, but not to them.
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49219

          #79
          Originally posted by LoungeMachine
          But Gar is actually implying Jizzy THREW HIMSELF OFF THE ROOF AND COMMITED JIZZYCIDE.

          "he knew he wasn't well", said Gar.

          There are no "accidents"

          I wonder if his girlfriend found him and Gar in bed, and killed him.

          Jester saw a huge pole and had to hop in it. He thusly impaled himself to death...

          Rest in peace buddy. You wouldn't get this from any other guy...

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          • Julius
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2004
            • 720

            #80
            I heard a rumor he died of internal injuries shortly after the filming of this video...

            Here.

            Poor Ryan, he was so misunderstood.

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            • LoungeMachine
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 32576

              #81
              Originally posted by GAR
              That is correct:

              You'll know that's true when you go to my Myspace page, email me, and when I reply to you that I'm the wrong me you're looking for it's the ONLY verifiable proof you'll accept.

              So go do that now and get back to me so that I can prove to myself I don't have a myspace page, because if you can't believe Lounge you can't believe anyone. We all know this!
              The pic sure looks like the one you used in your craigslist ads that were posted over at DDLR.

              Originally posted by Kristy
              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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              • DLR7884
                ROCKSTAR

                • Jan 2004
                • 5895

                #82
                Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                Nice haircut, Michael Anthony.

                DLR7884
                Originally Posted by WARF:
                DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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                • kwame k
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 11302

                  #83


                  Gay Aikens and si-gar separated at birth or really the same person? The plot thickens......
                  Originally posted by vandeleur
                  E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                  • DLR7884
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 5895

                    #84
                    Originally posted by kwame k


                    Gay Aikens and si-gar separated at birth or really the same person? The plot thickens......


                    Wonderful!

                    DLR7884
                    Post of the month!
                    Originally Posted by WARF:
                    DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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                    • Susie Q
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1523

                      #85
                      Tha' Star is alive and posted over at hitchworld. Also, he knocked up his girlfriend and he was aboot to be a Dad at last I read (which is a while ago).

                      Here is the latest Star Report:

                      Posted on: 3:58 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 | |

                      I agree with HITCH.....................

                      2008 sucked for the most part other than meeting the woman that would carry my STAR OFFSPRING which happend actually in 2007 but the child was conceived in 2008 which I also add as a blessing.

                      THE WISDOM OF ALIEN MATHAMATICS DID NOT DROP in this year of our lord.

                      But I digress.

                      It will be released I'm sure but I am banned from talking about my music past or present forever. So that is more of a plus since noone knows when it's going to hit anyway and any fans I did have have forgotten about me and what I was doing or the reason for doing it.

                      I reflect alot as I ride home. I think about my family that I have my girlfriend and her daughter which I raise as my own and the one that is my own. alot of weight is on my shoulders

                      For the first time in many years I have seen weeks come and go totally sober.

                      What does this mean all and all. I'll show you all soon.

                      So for the new year I'm up to things but I'm not announcing them since that doesn't pan out for any of us.

                      I try like hell to keep things all fluffy bunnies and pink daisies. But brutal truth smacks me in the ass all the time.
                      ~Susie Q 2009

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                      • DLR7884
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5895

                        #86
                        Isn't that scary that he's someone's father?

                        DLR7884
                        Christ.
                        Originally Posted by WARF:
                        DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #87
                          Perhaps,

                          But at least thanks to Susie, we can lay to rest this ugly Gar troll of a thread.

                          Disgusting piece of shit.

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • flappo
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8223

                            #88
                            who what where ?

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10881

                              #89
                              Originally posted by DLR7884
                              Nice haircut, Michael Anthony.

                              DLR7884
                              TOO fucking gay!

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                              • ThrillsNSpills
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6627

                                #90
                                He's alive !

                                It's a miracle!

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