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  • standin
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    Cute baby's Mama knocks Universal Music Group back inline

    By Eriq Gardner – Mon Mar 1, 8:48 am ET

    LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – How much should a copyright owner pay for improperly telling a website to remove content?

    Stephanie Lenz got into trouble with Universal Music Group in 2007 after she posted a YouTube video of her toddler dancing to the Prince song "Let's Go Crazy." The label fired off a letter demanding removal of the clip and YouTube complied.

    Lenz then teamed with online free-speech advocates at the Electronic Frontier Foundation to get a judge to declare that her video was a "fair use" of the song. She then sought damages against Universal, the world's biggest record company, for sending a meritless takedown request.

    Universal fought back by raising affirmative defenses that Lenz had bad faith and unclean hands in pursuing damages. Now a California district court judge has rejected those arguments, granting partial summary judgment to Lenz and paving the way for Lenz to collect attorneys fees.

    The case is important because it raises the question of whether a media company can be held liable for pursuing a takedown without a full consideration of fair use. The decision by the court last Thursday is very technical and examines damage claims under a statutory code that deals with liability when misrepresentations are made about infringing works online.

    A preliminary read on the decision indicates that Lenz can recover legal fees associated with fighting the takedown, but not necessarily fees connected with the cost of pursuing Universal for damages in follow-up litigation. To really sock it to Universal, Lenz would have to make a claim under a code that awards fees at the court's discretion. To do that, she will likely need to show that Universal knowingly misrepresented its initial claim.

    Cute baby video wins battle against music label - Yahoo! News
    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
    MICHAEL G. MULLEN
  • standin
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    #2
    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
    MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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    • LoungeMachine
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      #3
      Sending to NON.


      as in NON INTEREST





      WTF does this have to do with politics or religion?
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • standin
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        #4
        Ummm. you ever hear a thing called the courts of law?
        I guess you are one of "those" that think fair use is a non-issue or not politically motivated.
        To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
        MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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        • LoungeMachine
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          #5
          :crickets:
          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • standin
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            #6
            If you think fair use is not political, you are misinformed or not informed at all.
            Besides bad cover tunes and documenting daily life such as babies dancing, fair-use effects your freedom of speech.

            Manalapan v. Moskovitz

            EFF prevented the New Jersey Township of Manalapan from outing a vocal critic.

            One blogger who was particularly critical of the Township was Blogspot blogger "datruthsquad" (daTruthSquad). Inexplicably, attorneys issued a subpoena to Google (owner of Blogspot) demanding that the identity of this anonymous critic be turned over, along with datruthsquad's contact information, blog drafts, e-mails, and "any and all information related to the blog." Superior Court Judge Terence Flynn granted EFF's motion to quash the Township's subpoena seeking the identity of datruthsquad and denied a motion to authorize future subpoenas.

            Sony Rootkit scandal

            EFF held Sony BMG accountable for infecting its customers' computers with software that created grave security vulnerabilities and let the company spy on listening behavior.

            Sony BMG included the dangerous software on millions of music CDs as part of a misguided attempt to restrict consumer usage. After pushing Sony BMG to take the CDs off the market, EFF filed and subsequently settled a class-action lawsuit that forced Sony to repair the damage already done. EFF also successfully pressured Sunncomm, the creators of one of the harmful technologies, to fix the security flaws.

            EFF Legal Victories | Electronic Frontier Foundation
            Dragging someone around is easy to do...

            YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

            Block, Monetize, or Track Viewing Metrics — It's Automated, and It's Free

            <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xWizsV5Le7s&rel=0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf& hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xWizsV5Le7s&rel=0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf& hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>


            You can go pull old newspapers and review them. Video news is not archived for the most part. Getting that data for commentary, research or any other fair use requires that "hand-held device".







            Fair use has always been at risk on YouTube, thanks to abusive DMCA takedown notices sent by copyright owners (sometimes carelessly, sometimes not). But in the past several weeks, two things have made things much worse for those who want to sing a song, post an a capella tribute, or set machinima to music.

            First, it appears that more and more copyright owners are using YouTube's automated copyright filtering system (known as the Content ID system), which tests all videos looking for a "match" with "fingerprints" provided by copyright owners.

            Second, thanks to a recent spat between YouTube and Warner Music Group, YouTube's Content ID tool is now being used to censor lots and lots of videos (previously, Warner just silently shared in the advertising revenue for the videos that included a "match" to its music).

            EFF, along with many other public interest groups, have repeatedly expressed our concerns to both copyright owners and YouTube about the dangers of automated filtering systems like the Content ID system. These systems are still primitive and unable to distinguish a tranformative remix from copyright infringement. So unless they leave lots of breathing room for remixed content, these filters end up sideswiping lots of fair uses.

            And that's exactly what has happened these past few weeks. And while today it's Warner Music, as more copyright owners start using the Content ID tool, it'll only get worse. Soon it may be off limits to remix anything with snippets of our shared mass media culture -- music, TV, movies, jingles, commercials. That would be a sad irony -- copyright being used to stifle an exciting new wellspring of creativity, rather than encourage it.

            It's clear from the Warner Music experience that YouTube's Content ID tool fails to separate the infringements from the arguable fair uses. And while YouTube offers users the option to dispute a removal (if it's an automated Content ID removal) or send a formal DMCA counter-notice (if it's an official DMCA takedown), many YouTube users, lacking legal help, are afraid to wave a red flag in front of Warner Music's lawyers. That's a toxic combination for amateur video creators on YouTube.

            So what can we do?

            First, YouTube should fix the Content ID system. Now. The system should not remove videos unless there is a match between the video and audio tracks of a submitted fingerprint. When we made this suggestion in October 2007, YouTube assured us that they were working on improving the tool. Well, it's been more than a year. If YouTube is serious about protecting its users, the time has come to implement this fix. (Some will point out that this implies that record labels and music publishers can never use the Content ID tool to remove videos solely based on what's in the audio track. That's right. I think that adding a soundtrack to your home skateboarding movie is a fair use. If copyright owners feel differently, they can send a formal DMCA takedown notice, and with any luck, we'll see each other in court.)

            Second, YouTubers, EFF wants to help. If Warner Music Group took down your video, ask yourself if your video is (1) noncommercial (i.e., no commercial advertisements or YouTube Partner videos) and (2) includes substantial original material contributed by you (i.e., no verbatim copies of Warner music videos). If so, and you'd like to counternotice but are afraid of getting sued, we'd like to hear from you. We can't promise to take every case, but neither will we stand by and watch semi-automated takedowns trample fair use.


            YouTube's January Fair Use Massacre | Electronic Frontier Foundation
            Last edited by standin; 03-01-2010, 09:45 PM.
            To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
            MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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            • standin
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              #7
              Music related political discussion on a music related board, hmm imagine that new concept......
              To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
              MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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              • LoungeMachine
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                #8
                So far it's just you talking to yourself......

                Hmmm

                Imagine that....

                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • chefcraig
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  So far it's just you talking to yourself......

                  Hmmm

                  Imagine that....

                  Ain't the first time...










                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • standin
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                    #10
                    Yep, 'cept you....


                    Of course, everyone is waiting on the tour box set release....Not that would be considered fair use, but would be held by copyright and if doody is dancing.
                    ~Same tree~
                    Corporate controlling what we hear, say and view.
                    Note: not ALL corporate is "bad."
                    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                    MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                    • LoungeMachine
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • standin
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chefcraig
                        Ain't the first time...


                        Wow you saved that....dang...
                        drunk writing, better than drunk dialing.
                        To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                        MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                        • LoungeMachine
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                          #13
                          See, the reality is....

                          Trying to crack the nut that is standin, is much more of an entertaining and informative thread than this one....



                          If I started a WHAT MEDS DO YOU THINK STANDIN IS ON? thread it'd hit 9 pages before you had time to fill your next RX
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • LoungeMachine
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by standin

                            Wow you saved that....dang...
                            drunk writing, better than drunk dialing.
                            thome might argue that point......



                            what was it that broke you two lovebirds up, anyway?
                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                            • chefcraig
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                              thome might argue that point......
                              Don't be so sure...










                              “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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