Another Shoes "too much info" thread - my big project idea

[Candy Girl]

You're all crazy. I love it.

I maintain a pellet stove now where I"m staying. Have no idea where I"d store the massive pile of 40 lb bags. Loading the thing up breaks my back, but it does keep our heat bill down, and you can actually see flames, which is nice. Other friends have a woodstove. I like the look of that a lot better. It might be OK if had the fireplace down and a small woodstove up.

Or I could shut it all down in the winter and move in with my friends for 3 months a year. LOL.

A wood stove is messy with the logs leaving bits of moss, dirt etc. all over the floor and then there's the ash clean up. Also, do you want to chop wood and let it season for awhile? Oh yeah, they do produce heat, but it's relative to their position in the house. Unless you have a fan on it to force the air around, it is very hot where it is and the rest of the house is so-so. Then there is the thing where you have to get up in the middle of the night to add more wood to keep the fire going.

[Sensible Shoes]

A wood stove is messy with the logs leaving bits of moss, dirt etc. all over the floor and then there's the ash clean up. Also, do you want to chop wood and let it season for awhile? Oh yeah, they do produce heat, but it's relative to their position in the house. Unless you have a fan on it to force the air around, it is very hot where it is and the rest of the house is so-so. Then there is the thing where you have to get up in the middle of the night to add more wood to keep the fire going.

Yeah, this is where the pellet stoves are somewhat nicer, They come with blowers and you can fill it enough so it will last for about a day and a half. although they too have to be cleaned out at least twice a week with a metal "shopvac". And lugging the bags around is a total BITCH. I'd want one on the second floor as well, and dragging 40 lb bags upstairs is not my idea of fun.

And chopping wood? Nope. Buy it, have it delivered. Many friends do it - buy at least a cord for the winter, and the really efficients ones don't have to be stoked during the night.

I wouldn't want baseboard heat. Being somewhat of a purist, they'd ruin the look of the place.

[twonabomber]

I maintain a pellet stove now where I"m staying. Have no idea where I"d store the massive pile of 40 lb bags. Loading the thing up breaks my back, but it does keep our heat bill down, and you can actually see flames, which is nice.

you need a Pellet Pail

The Pellet Pail - For every Pellet Stove Owner!

[Sensible Shoes]

Maybe This Will Help.:D

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Y'know, I really love that concept. I want a guy in a bunny suit attached to me at all times.

(and you say.......)

[Sensible Shoes]

you need a Pellet Pail

The Pellet Pail - For every Pellet Stove Owner!

OK so you're lifting a 40lb bag INTO THE TUB, then LIFTING THE 40 lb TUB, pouring it in, or scooping. Genius.

Or you could just bring the bag in, open it with scissors, scoop the pellets into the stove until you can lift the bag easily, dump the rest in, and throw out the bag. Hmmmm. Seems there's one less step in there.

[twonabomber]

okay, maybe you don't need one. :D

[Sensible Shoes]

I just need new hips and knees.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I just need new hips and knees.

as a result of your sig, no doubt.

[twonabomber]

I just need new hips and knees.

you really make this too easy sometimes, you know? :D

[GAR]

Y'know, I really love that concept. I want a guy in a bunny suit attached to me at all times.

(and you say.......)

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[GAR]

I'm thinking I'd put 30K into rehabbing this thing, but it's a full summer tour.

First you'd tear off the roof and put some 2x10 beams up or something strong enough to support 1/2" drywall, and recessed lighting in the bedroom at the very least if not throughout.

Second while you're doing that, beef up the foundation supports or actually dig out for a basement and retro those supports with blocked foundation walls one at a time but that may be too crazy.

After doing that, I'd put up a 4ft scrim of slate or brick round the exterior, changing out the shit glass for doubleglazed vinyl windows.

THEN you redo the walls with Romex, Cat 5 and cable wiring before the new insulation and drywall.

But I don't know about those exposed painted studs, they dont' look like the modern measure of 2x4 are they? If not I'd either replace what could be - I think when we built studios out of things like this the building code was: you don't tear out the stud, you simply toenail-in the modern 2x4s or 2x6's alongside it, adding fireblocks in between for support of the drywall mid-seam deadon at 48" horizontally, and the studs centered at 48 too..

PVC - gone.. go metal before sealing up those walls.

I'd have to put in a nice backhatched-cleaning slate fireplace of course, nothing like screwing in front of the fire bareassed on a sheepskin rug.

Lastly, the bath. That's got to go. Not your first priority obv but if I had one thought about it I have ten better..

[Sensible Shoes]

you really make this too easy sometimes, you know? :D

Yes and that's why you all love me.

[Sensible Shoes]

as a result of your sig, no doubt.

Hmmmm. No. I cannot continue to practice my sig because of the condition!

Frying Dutchman came up with that in my first thread after I came back. He thought I was a male troll because I started a Dave-Hair thread, just to be obnoxious. I asked him if he was the guy with a similar handle who practiced some VERY outlandish fetish stuff on the interweb. He called me a fetish obsessed cock gobbler. I agreed with him so he would like me better. Never say Shoes does not know how to win over the DLRArmy crowd.



No doubt this will come back to haunt me when I launch my political career.

[Sensible Shoes]

I'm thinking I'd put 30K into rehabbing this thing, but it's a full summer tour.

First you'd tear off the roof and put some 2x10 beams up or something strong enough to support 1/2" drywall, and recessed lighting in the bedroom at the very least if not throughout.

Second while you're doing that, beef up the foundation supports or actually dig out for a basement and retro those supports with blocked foundation walls one at a time but that may be too crazy.

After doing that, I'd put up a 4ft scrim of slate or brick round the exterior, changing out the shit glass for doubleglazed vinyl windows.

THEN you redo the walls with Romex, Cat 5 and cable wiring before the new insulation and drywall.

But I don't know about those exposed painted studs, they dont' look like the modern measure of 2x4 are they? If not I'd either replace what could be - I think when we built studios out of things like this the building code was: you don't tear out the stud, you simply toenail-in the modern 2x4s or 2x6's alongside it, adding fireblocks in between for support of the drywall mid-seam deadon at 48" horizontally, and the studs centered at 48 too..

PVC - gone.. go metal before sealing up those walls.

I'd have to put in a nice backhatched-cleaning slate fireplace of course, nothing like screwing in front of the fire bareassed on a sheepskin rug.

Lastly, the bath. That's got to go. Not your first priority obv but if I had one thought about it I have ten better..

Um Gar, the point of this is that I cannot afford a real house. And some of the stuff you want to scuttle is what makes the place charming, particularly the windows. For 100 year old relics, these things are in absolutely amazing shape.

I would agree that putting some kind of a basement under it and shoring up the foundation would be a good idea but might not be a worthwhile expense.

Keep in mind too, this place is an unofficial "historical site" and changing it out to be too modern is going to make it stick out like a sore thumb.

[Igosplut]

If your really serious, and need second opinions I could probably bring a few people up to look at it for you..