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  • Unchainme
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Apr 2005
    • 7746

    Why other countries hate the united states

    How MTV Is Selling Jersey Shore to Foreigners - Jersey Shore - Gawker

    Dear non-americans of the rotharmy,

    let me be the first to apologize for this trash that somehow passes for Television amd somehow gets exported to your country now-a-days. We're really not like this, not at all. Sure we like to party and drink, but a lot of us are not brain dead attention whoring idiots like these toolbags are. We all live pretty normal quiet lives and again a whole lot us would like nothing more than to export these morons to anartica as they are a detriment to our society, and I'm sure you have the same amount of idiots in your respective countries, but I suppose they don't have as easy access to a camera?

    also, our bad on the whole Bush thing, really a lot of us wern't fans of him either.

    Your fellow citizen of the world

    unchainme.
    Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35754

    #2
    It's ok my favourite TV reviewer over here nailed it I think...


    Charlie Brooker's Screen burn: Jersey Shore

    This week, Charlie's been watching MTV demonise young Italian-Americans in Jersey Shore

    Scribbling about TV shows isn't an abysmal task by any standards, but it does have its downsides, namely those weeks where the programme you're reviewing is so profoundly dispiriting it leaves you praying for climate change to hurry up and frazzle us all. This is one of those weeks. The Guide insisted I watch Jersey Shore (Sun, 9pm, MTV). Swear to God, they're trying to drive me to suicide.

    On the face of it, Jersey Shore is a reality show in which some tanned, whooping idiots live in a beach house for a month: a splice of Big Brother and Ibiza Uncovered featuring a uniformly unlikable bunch of infuriating, loud, over-confident pillocks. So far, so standard. What's eye-opening is that the entire cast appears to be drawn from one minority group – namely Italian-Americans. I didn't know much about Italian-Americans before watching Jersey Shore. Now I feel as if I was born hating them; as if despising Italian-Americans is my moral duty.

    It's not my fault, really it's not. Blame the producers, who seem to have constructed Jersey Shore by following a step-by-step guide to besmirching an entire ethnic group. Step one: identify the stereotype (in this case, the notion that working-class Italian-Americans are shallow sex-crazed thugs). Step two: collect the clearest embodiments of said stereotype you can find (consequently all the men in Jersey Shore are dopey, muscled, hollering titty-chasers: the girls are bolshy, spray-tanned, micro-skirted man-eaters). Step three: let them refer to themselves by using a slang term broadly perceived as an ethnic slur (in this case, the word "guido", a pejorative nickname which roughly means "dim macho Italian-American lunk"). Step four: group them together in a house decorated with Italian flags and Scarface posters. Step five: give them booze, film them behaving like shallow sex-crazed thugs, calling each other "guido", etc. Step six: there is no step six. Job's done. Go home and count the proceeds.

    Unsurprisingly, Jersey Shore caused a bit of a stink when it was screened in the US. Various advertisers, including Domino's Pizza and Dell Computers, pulled their commercials following the debut episode. New York Post TV critic Linda Stasi (herself an Italian-American) accused the show of "furthering the popular TV notion that Italian-Americans are gel-haired, thuggish ignoramuses with fake tans, no manners, no diction, no taste, no education, no sexual discretion, no hairdressers (for sure), no real knowledge of Italian culture and no ambition beyond expanding steroid- and silicone-enhanced bodies into sizes best suited for floating over Macy's on Thanksgiving."

    In summary: Jersey Shore isn't very nice. A farmyard animal could produce this show, and probably did. In fact, the sole skill the makers have demonstrated is the small degree of cunning involved in selecting Italian-Americans in the first place. Run the step-by-step guide again with a different ethinc group and it's altogether more incendiary.

    But perhaps the whole ethnic slant, explosive though it is, is a red herring. The group Jersey Shore is truly adept at demonising – like countless dumb "party time" docusoaps before it – is the young. Some of the young audience will tune in; the vast majority will ignore it. On TV, you currently have more chance of spotting a pair of morbidly obese conjoined twins on a log flume than of seeing one articulate, intelligent teenager exploring any subject other than sex or tattoos in any depth whatsoever. Little wonder they're abandoning ship.

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    • MAX
      Rotharmy Gladiator

      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 13001

      #3
      Wait just a minute, Baywatch was an international fucking phenomenon!!!

      Your welcome.
      EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35754

        #4
        Unlike Baywatch I don't think this is aimed at our demographic...

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        • Unchainme
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Apr 2005
          • 7746

          #5
          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          It's ok my favourite TV reviewer over here nailed it I think...
          Brooker is gold.

          Wish we in the states could borrow if just for a couple months.

          YouTube - Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe - Teenage opinions on Yoof TV
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          • binnie
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2006
            • 19145

            #6
            I have seen a commercial for this show - it made me want to die.........
            The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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            • Dan
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12194

              #7
              HOLY CRAP!!! Jersey Shore Punch, SNOOKIE GETS KNOCKED DA F**K OUT!!!

              <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_9nCE-h29sw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_9nCE-h29sw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

              Holy Shit.
              First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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              • ZahZoo
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 9170

                #8
                Nothin new... consider what the rest of the world thought of us in the 60's -70's when Giligan's Island, The Beverley Hillbillies, Gomer Pyle & Hogan's Heros were top reality shows...
                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                • binnie
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • May 2006
                  • 19145

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dan
                  HOLY CRAP!!! Jersey Shore Punch, SNOOKIE GETS KNOCKED DA F**K OUT!!!

                  <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_9nCE-h29sw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_9nCE-h29sw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

                  Holy Shit.
                  What kind of a man hits a woman?
                  The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                  • Coyote
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8185

                    #10
                    What kinda name is "Snookie", anyway?
                    Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                    • chefcraig
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 12172

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Coyote
                      What kinda name is "Snookie", anyway?
                      There is an interesting story behind that. When the show was being initially conceived and the individual characters were being created, it was determined that the part of a vacuous, socially inept bottom-feeder should have a name that started in a sibilant "S", and ended with a vowel. It was discovered that the New Jersey accent would take great advantage of such a name, and was given historical precedent in the use of the similar Tony Soprano, a character also from the Jersey locale.

                      A list of names was thus compiled, and after much further research was dwindled down to two final possibilities. Oddly enough, during a search for legalities, it was discovered that one of the names (Savicki) was actually in use, and was widely recognized in the on-line community, with often disturbing connotations. Fearing highly negative response to a character with such a name in an already controversial series, the name "Snookie" won out by default.









                      “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                      ― Stephen Hawking

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        uhh h uh uh uh h hu hu hu hu hu...

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                        • kwame k
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 11302

                          #13
                          Watch yourself, Craig. Steve is hitting the groan button like a drunken sailor hitting the bottle on shore leave.
                          Originally posted by vandeleur
                          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                          • Dan
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 12194

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kwame k
                            Watch yourself, Craig. Steve is hitting the groan button like a drunken sailor hitting the bottle on shore leave.
                            You Suck,Steve.
                            First Roth Army Kiwi To See Van Halen Live 6/16/2012 Phoenix Arizona.

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                            • Kristy
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 16739

                              #15
                              Originally posted by binnie
                              What kind of a man hits a woman?
                              One that will do what a reality show TV producer will tells him to do. What you're seeing here is not just the dumbing down of American culture but the complete acceptance of it. It's no coincidence that shows like 'Jersey Shore' are a hit among their targeted demographic of a sub-culture society circling it like vultures who feed upon vanity, materialism, self-aggrandizement while reinforcing all the negative stereotypes that go along with it. So why now are Italians offended? It is because of this douchebag's act or the more plausible cause they they are simply being exploited and mocked?



                              MTV, who is owned by Viacom has been dismantling television for years replacing what could be considered entertainment with mindless shock value. Just watch any of the shit they produce and see how they distort all they touch. For example look how a show like CSI capitalizes on the suffering of the mentally ill and/or the homeless; even Southpark has lost its edge of taking aim at pop culture and simply giving their audience a verbal battering of expletive syntax. 'The Daily Show' has now become so unwatchable not because of Stewart's smugness but because all they offer anymore is counter-arguments to the likes of Fox News (which can be good at times) polarizing their viewers to some sort of metaphorical belief that The Daily Shows News is real news while claiming not to be real news at all. Yeah, I know that made no sense but I'm running on 4 hours of sleep here.

                              Anyway, seeing what looks like an Axe body spray-wearing, no job with no ambition barely graduated high-school speaking, "works out" at the gym 4 hours a day idiot (oooh, talk about stereotyping) hitting a girl doesn't shock or offend me at all. Instead, it makes me feel embarrassed that this is the best our society can come up for TV merriment - as if Jay Leno returning to the Tonight Show wasn't bad enough.

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