I need a serious man to man talk with someone, or anyone

[GAR]

Another option, is you can go to Juvenile Court and get "emancipated" which is a term that means for all intents and purposes, the law now recognizes you as an adult responsible for yourself.

So if your old man is the type that tends to knock you around when he's had too much of the Slippery Sauce, and you want to leave, find a room for rent and pay for it using Welfare, you can do that as an Emancipated Minor.

Oh man, if I had become an emancipated minor and then joined Naval Air Command or something.. one backup plan I had for example, was graduate with a 2-year degree and then enlist as an officer going in, and continuing my education while in service at the service's expense. But what happened, was so many many many bands in the LA area got signed after playing out sometimes 3 years together, sometimes 3 weeks.. and that spoiled my vision to become what I am today.

Just to think I coulda been blowing up shit in Grenada, or Panama.. cuz that was right around that time. Instead I let guitar overtake me and not the other way around, so that's what happens when you lose sight of your goals, distraction and regret in not following thru.

State of Florida will actually pay you to take care of yourself to age 19 I believe, but the social worker you're assigned will have you go thru counseling, have a financial plan on how you're going to get thru school and all before she signs off on a positive report to the court. But mention "yeah I just wanna rent a house so I can bang metal riffs in the garage with my dropout buddies, knock up my girlfriend and drink beer for free all afteroon then deal pot in the evening" forget it. It wont work because it's not the 70s any more...

[VanHalenFan5150]

I love my dad... I mean, he's my fucking dad! I came from his penis! I don't want to live on my own until i'm ready to. I want to be affluent like he is. But for one... He is a monster, I do not by any means grow up to act like him. Especially not to my kid/s. I want to be one of those cool dads you rarely ever hear about

[GAR]

I do think that music will take me somewhere, and I think many here will agree

"Misery loves company" cliche, comes to mind. You'll get lots of support from those around you saying "yeah do it" and make that your life focus and all, I'm telling you from experience spanning the course of three decades during the Golden Age of guitar rock, that today is no longer such an age OK.

I havent' and won't critique your playing or your enthusiams for guitar, what I'm telling you though is look at it with the contrast of what's ahead for guys like you after graduation. You do NOT want to be working at Home Depot for 5 years until you wake up to the fact that the better companies that pay real money, want to drool over a young person with a resume no matter how you do the job or not or if you're better or worse than the guy you replace.

That's just how business is. It rewards people who throw 4 years or more of their lives away for that little piece of paper called a diploma, why I don't know except for tradition and because it shows sacrifice and that maybe they think a person with a diploma will likewise sacrifice for the company, too if hired.

And I don't know about what your household believes, but the commandment that says "honor your father and mother" doesn't specify an OUT with "honor your honorable father" - that's just the way it is. So hold your tongue while you're around him and under his roof, after that you can also hold your tongue until the day he dies.. hopefully though you move out before that happens.

[GAR]

I love my dad... But for one... He is a monster, I do not by any means grow up to act like him.

Then don't drink. That was another age your dad went thru, when you could go out drinking all night and hopefully you made it home without too much body damage to your vehicle.

Drinking is a waste of time and money, and if that's what your dad want's to do with his, respect his space by staying out of it and holding your tongue and you'll both get along till you graduate.

[VanHalenFan5150]

Then don't drink. That was another age your dad went thru, when you could go out drinking all night and hopefully you made it home without too much body damage to your vehicle.

Drinking is a waste of time and money, and if that's what your dad want's to do with his, respect his space by staying out of it and holding your tongue and you'll both get along till you graduate.

Exactly... That's what I plan to do; stay clean for my whole life

[Nickdfresh]

Another option, is you can go to Juvenile Court and get "emancipated" which is a term that means for all intents and purposes, the law now recognizes you as an adult responsible for yourself.

So if your old man is the type that tends to knock you around when he's had too much of the Slippery Sauce, and you want to leave, find a room for rent and pay for it using Welfare, you can do that as an Emancipated Minor.

Oh man, if I had become an emancipated minor and then joined Naval Air Command or something.. one backup plan I had for example, was graduate with a 2-year degree and then enlist as an officer going in, and continuing my education while in service at the service's expense. But what happened, was so many many many bands in the LA area got signed after playing out sometimes 3 years together, sometimes 3 weeks.. and that spoiled my vision to become what I am today.

Just to think I coulda been blowing up shit in Grenada, or Panama.. cuz that was right around that time. Instead I let guitar overtake me and not the other way around, so that's what happens when you lose sight of your goals, distraction and regret in not following thru.

State of Florida will actually pay you to take care of yourself to age 19 I believe, but the social worker you're assigned will have you go thru counseling, have a financial plan on how you're going to get thru school and all before she signs off on a positive report to the court. But mention "yeah I just wanna rent a house so I can bang metal riffs in the garage with my dropout buddies, knock up my girlfriend and drink beer for free all afteroon then deal pot in the evening" forget it. It wont work because it's not the 70s any more...

Dude, you're a loser that posts trolling and Google nonsense 20 times day on a silly rock website. Who the fuck are you to give advice to anyone?

[VanHalenFan5150]

Dude, you're a loser that posts trolling and Google nonsense 20 times day on a silly rock website. Who the fuck are you to give advice to anyone?

His only valid point was the whole "don't drink and stay quiet" notion, other than that I didn't really heed his advice. Though I will be going to college... Anyway, I don't want to start a flame war, and if one arises i'd like this thread to be closed.

[Nickdfresh]

His only valid point was the whole "don't drink and stay quiet" notion, other than that I didn't really heed his advice. Though I will be going to college... Anyway, I don't want to start a flame war, and if one arises i'd like this thread to be closed.

His only "valid point?" I think he brought up several unvalid ones, like emancipation--which is a very sticky legal issue...

[chefcraig]

Enough, both to the guy that started the thread, and those that chose to chime in. Look, by some weird assumed "fellowship", some common sense advice for what is taking place might happen to surface by picking and choosing amongst some replies here on what is essentially a message board. Fucking swell, but the truth is, if an individual is hurting, the internet is pretty much the last place to go for help.

Yeah, a good portion of folks are willing to apply all sorts of advice, yet in reality no one knows of your own personal issues. For cryin' out loud dude, find someone that exists in your own neighborhood that you can reach out to. This idea of an internet community is a bunch of baloney when it comes to folks that you can physically embrace.

I'm not kidding. Kind words of support only can go so far, particularly if offered in a vacuum. Find some real humans close to you, in order to get through this. I'm not demeaning the efforts of others here in cyberspace, but in my opinion, you'll need to find true human compassion and contact to work through your issues. And you aint gonna find it on a website.

[VanHalenFan5150]

I agree with you 100% Craig, not going to argue at all there. I've been talking to my girlfriend and all of my friends... and even my MOM (who has been getting the brunt of my dad's apeshit habits) when I need to. I never realized how many people are there for me when i'm about to fall... But anyway, would a mod please delete the thread? Or at least close it. Thanks for the advice, guys.

[Anonymous]

I was gonna post basically what Chef posted. The REAL problems must be dealt with the help of those that actually know you, not internet faggots.

THIS, however, has me worried:

I never realized how many people are there for me when i'm about to fall...

And on this, I do offer you advice. It sounds like you're spending way too much time in places like this. As a teenager, you should be out there setting the foundations for what's gonna be your adult life. And that shit ain't happenin' here. In case you haven't noticed, this forum is full of 25+ to middle-aged people who can afford the time for this because our lives are pretty much settled. You're 15. Go away & come back when you're a full-fledged loser.

Cheers! :bottle:

[GAR]

Dude, you're a loser

Opinions are like assholes, everyones' got one?

Where's your sage advice on this with perspective.. SHOW us YOUR asshole, Asshole!

[GAR]

Go away & come back when you're a full-fledged loser.

Wow, I wish I had some kind of intereactive medium like this when I was 15, locked in my room. I had the radio, the 8-track, my guitar and piles of books.

Guy comes in here looking for advisement from experienced people, well it looks like you have nothing in common to share except putdowns.

You should take that back.

[Anonymous]

Fuck off, you disgusting piece of shit.

Should the kid take your advices, you fucking pedophile? You want him to turn out like you, a skid mark of mankind, spending your days in a forum where most people would be glad to kick your teeth in just for saying hello, just because this is the only place where people even bother to validate your existence, even if it's with contempt & disgust?

Just die.

[GAR]

Look here my Uni-browed Euro Bro: I'm waiting to see what you offer him in the ways of advisement and you're coming up EMPTY.