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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35754

    #16
    Originally posted by Candy Girl
    Ok answer this: Do you think that if there was a miracle cure for cancer, heart disease, etc that the drug companies would actually make the drug? I tend to think not because of the lost profits. If they did, you can bet your ass they would want a premium price for it. Remember the drug companies are just like any other business, they're in it for the money.
    One of the most effective drugs to prevent a heart attack is aspirin. It reduces your chance of having a secondary stroke or heart attack by a fifth. Can you buy aspirin? How expensive is it?

    Drug companies charge what the market will bear but drug companies are not the only people doing research. Also drug patents only last 20 years.

    There are shitty things about drug companies like for example they don't publish studies which show their drug isn't so good and they spend much more on marketing than research but the bottom line is that this is a non story. Unfortunately this probably isn't a miracle cancer cure drug, it may have side effects, it hasn't worked yet in a human trial and it is just going through the usual research process.

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35754

      #17
      Originally posted by Nitro Express
      Another thing you can do to keep yourself healthy is don't let the bastards grind you down.
      And don't get unlucky. I think that's the single most important thing.

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      • Candy Girl

        #18
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        One of the most effective drugs to prevent a heart attack is aspirin. It reduces your chance of having a secondary stroke or heart attack by a fifth. Can you buy aspirin? How expensive is it?

        Drug companies charge what the market will bear but drug companies are not the only people doing research. Also drug patents only last 20 years.

        There are shitty things about drug companies like for example they don't publish studies which show their drug isn't so good and they spend much more on marketing than research but the bottom line is that this is a non story. Unfortunately this probably isn't a miracle cancer cure drug, it may have side effects, it hasn't worked yet in a human trial and it is just going through the usual research process.
        Aspirin has been around many, many years and it was found out AFTERWARD (much, much later) to be effective for heart attacks, strokes and other things. So I qualify that as a non-valid point because they couldn't raise the price if they wanted to because the market is pretty much flooded with it. Sesh, are you in pharmaceutical sales or do you own stock in one because it seems like you are their cheering section.

        Oh and Snopes isn't the gold standard in truth. I would be careful with anything they say, pro or con.
        Last edited by Guest; 05-23-2011, 08:34 PM.

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        • ashstralia
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Feb 2004
          • 6566

          #19
          then there are the non traditional methods.....




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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35754

            #20
            Originally posted by Candy Girl
            Sesh, are you in pharmaceutical sales or do you own stock in one because it seems like you are their cheering section.
            No not at all but I am in the 'lets not just make shit up because we don't like the big drug companies' section.

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35754

              #21
              Originally posted by ashstralia
              then there are the non traditional methods.....




              http://www.news.com.au/national/hill...-1226061204195
              Kind of depressing too though.

              There is a big industry of cunts who sell bullshit alternatives to medicine to people who are desperate, wasting the precious time and money of the most vulnerable. I would put the conmen in jail.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35754

                #22
                Originally posted by Candy Girl

                Oh and Snopes isn't the gold standard in truth. I would be careful with anything they say, pro or con.



                SOTT.net is a research project of the non-profit Quantum Future Group (QFG). The project includes collecting, arranging, and analyzing news items that seem to best reflect the movement of macrocosmic quantum energies on the planet. This research further includes noting whether or not human beings, individually and/or collectively, can actually remember from one day to the next the state of the planet, and whether they are able to accurately read that information and make intelligent decisions about their future based on that knowledge. In short, SOTT.net is an experiment.

                While the site began as a one-woman operation, this work quickly attracted some truly fine, open minds - people interested in truth, many of whom are scientific professionals and whose work on SOTT is anonymous for their own protection. Our work has been attacked, suppressed, and marginalized by the Powers That Be in ways that no other work has been, leaving us with the distinct impression that we must be on the right track!
                Last edited by Seshmeister; 05-23-2011, 09:57 PM.

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35754

                  #23
                  'Macrocosmic quantum energies' may be the dumbest most baseless made up thing I have read on a quack website and that is up against some stiff competition.

                  Funny though. :D

                  'People say we are talking shit which just proves we are on the right track!'

                  Haha!
                  Last edited by Seshmeister; 05-23-2011, 10:04 PM.

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                  • ashstralia
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6566

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    Kind of depressing too though.

                    There is a big industry of cunts who sell bullshit alternatives to medicine to people who are desperate, wasting the precious time and money of the most vulnerable. I would put the conmen in jail.
                    in oz, they enjoy tax free status. we're in the wrong business mate.

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                    • Anonymous
                      Banned
                      • May 2004
                      • 12749

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister


                      SOTT.net is a research project of the non-profit Quantum Future Group (QFG). The project includes collecting, arranging, and analyzing news items that seem to best reflect the movement of macrocosmic quantum energies on the planet. This research further includes noting whether or not human beings, individually and/or collectively, can actually remember from one day to the next the state of the planet, and whether they are able to accurately read that information and make intelligent decisions about their future based on that knowledge. In short, SOTT.net is an experiment.

                      While the site began as a one-woman operation, this work quickly attracted some truly fine, open minds - people interested in truth, many of whom are scientific professionals and whose work on SOTT is anonymous for their own protection. Our work has been attacked, suppressed, and marginalized by the Powers That Be in ways that no other work has been, leaving us with the distinct impression that we must be on the right track!
                      That's what they want you to think...

                      How can you know who to trust & who not to trust?

                      How do you know that what they say is true?

                      Cheers! :bottle:

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        And don't get unlucky. I think that's the single most important thing.
                        That's something you have no control over but I've seen too many people create their own misery. Much like the placebo effect. A lot of the shit people suffer from they created themselves.

                        I remember a WWII fighter ace once saying if you thought you were going to die in combat you would. He said everybody had it in their head they were the baddest motherfucker in the sky thinking it was the other guy who got shot down because as soon as you thought you would die, that would creep in up there and you would have a self fulfilling prophecy. It may not totally eliminate you from getting killed but it lessens the chances of it happening.
                        Last edited by Nitro Express; 05-24-2011, 11:28 AM.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          #27
                          Right after we moved to another city my wife went in for a routine exam. We already had three children but without knowing her history the medical doctor just started pushed fertility drugs big time. What this joker didn't realize is there was no problem with fertility. If we didn't use birth control we would have had a small army of kids. Then you started hearing about women having multiple births due to fertility drugs. At this time a good friend of mine was pimping for a major pharmacutical company. He told me all he did was bribe doctors basically. Also, a family friend was working in Palm Springs as a physician. He said all the doctors cared about was patient count. They all wanted to make as much money and soon as they could so they could retire as soon as possible. Basically the less time you spent in medicine the less the chance of being ruined in a lawsuit.

                          It's become more about making money as fast as you can and protecting yourself from lawsuits than helping anyone.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35754

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
                            That's what they want you to think...

                            How can you know who to trust & who not to trust?

                            How do you know that what they say is true?

                            Cheers! :bottle:
                            Yeah yeah and you are just a figment of my imagination...zzzzzzzzz

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35754

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express

                              It's become more about making money as fast as you can and protecting yourself from lawsuits than helping anyone.

                              Right after we moved to another city my wife went in for a routine exam. We already had three children but without knowing her history the medical doctor just started pushed fertility drugs big time. What this joker didn't realize is there was no problem with fertility. If we didn't use birth control we would have had a small army of kids. Then you started hearing about women having multiple births due to fertility drugs. At this time a good friend of mine was pimping for a major pharmacutical company. He told me all he did was bribe doctors basically. Also, a family friend was working in Palm Springs as a physician. He said all the doctors cared about was patient count. They all wanted to make as much money and soon as they could so they could retire as soon as possible. Basically the less time you spent in medicine the less the chance of being ruined in a lawsuit.
                              And it is shown that if the birth rate goes down in an area in the US then the caesarian rate goes up, well those guys have country club memberships to pay.

                              Your post just backs up what everyone else in the civilised world knows, public funded universal healthcare is the only way to go.

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32942

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                                And it is shown that if the birth rate goes down in an area in the US then the caesarian rate goes up, well those guys have country club memberships to pay.

                                Your post just backs up what everyone else in the civilised world knows, public funded universal healthcare is the only way to go.
                                It's not that black and white or cut and dry. In the US we have had publicly funded healthcare for years. It's called county hospitals. Our healthcare system worked fine for decades until the last 25 years when the prices shot up sky high. Honestly. Do you think turning the system over to a government bought off by the insurance and pharmaceutical industry is going to make anything any better? Naw. The US Federal Government is completely corrupt and the only way to fix healthcare is to make it more local. About all the federal government is good for is robbery, wasting money, and starting wars. Not exactly the type of gangsters you want running your local hospital.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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