Scientology: The Truth

[Seshmeister]

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[Diamondjimi]

What a grate "religion". Hey, let's follow the word of a failed science fiction writer..... fools.

[kwame k]

Classic

[Va Beach VH Fan]

And we wonder why the planet is so fucked up....

[Julius]

That's why I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[kwame k]

Seriously......a cult started by an insane sci-fi writer who wanted to embezzle tax free money.

Now that's fucking crazy!

My religion was started by a dude who claimed to be the Son of God but was a man too, died was Resurrected and just because maybe two guys who were around at the time, could actually write a first hand account about Him, he's a great guy, trust me.
He'll come again.......prefaced by seven seals, strange ass creatures, plague and destruction......all because He loves us

[Seshmeister]

The main difference I think between religions though is age and how specific they are.

Scientology and Mormonism seem silly to most people because they are young rather than lost in the mists of time.

Being vague is helpful to be more palatable. If you say Jesus will return one day, hundreds of millions of people seem ok with that. If you say Jesus will return next Tuesday at the Taco Bell in Tuna Fish Wyoming then everyone thinks you are mentally incapacitated.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The main difference I think between religions though is age and how specific they are.

Scientology and Mormonism seem silly to most people because they are young rather than lost in the mists of time.

Being vague is helpful to be more palatable. If you say Jesus will return one day, hundreds of millions of people seem ok with that. If you say Jesus will return next Tuesday at the Taco Bell in Tuna Fish Wyoming then everyone thinks you are mentally incapacitated.

it's a taco john's

[kwame k]

it's a taco john's

I thought everyone knew that

[PETE'S BROTHER]

whiplash the cowboy monkey is jesus!! sesh made a new religion.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

[Julius]

Where is Alan the Panther?

[sadaist]

South park was great when they ripped on Scientology. Spot on & genius.

[ashstralia]

'i'm quitting to become a homeopath' fucking classic.

[Nitro Express]

The main difference I think between religions though is age and how specific they are.

Scientology and Mormonism seem silly to most people because they are young rather than lost in the mists of time.

Being vague is helpful to be more palatable. If you say Jesus will return one day, hundreds of millions of people seem ok with that. If you say Jesus will return next Tuesday at the Taco Bell in Tuna Fish Wyoming then everyone thinks you are mentally incapacitated.

Scientology seems to use the threat of lawsuits and powerful lawyers to keep their organization going. Mormons don't do that. What Mormons do is breed their membership. The whole system is geared for that. They have quite a sophisticated, subtle system set up to get the end results that the church leadership want. The whole key is to get members to marry each other and to totally smother their children in the church so that the next generation marry another member of the church. So what they do is set up a system within a system to do this. Mormons use a temple system. What you have to do to get a temple recommend (a card that admits you to any Mormon temple in the world) is you have to dedicate your life to the church and do whatever the church tells you to do (including wearing that holy underwear) and pay the church a 10% minimum of your gross increase. To hold high callings like bishop you have to be a temple attender married to another temple attender. So the church sets up a status system within the church. Sure you can warm a bench but you won't be given any status in the church. You will feel like a real nobody in the organization. So the temple system ingeniously creates a brainwashed married couple that will create more brain washed members for the church. If you look at Mormons they are into family big time. Why? It's what makes the church work. It's the engine. Then once you have family you have to manipulate the family. This is done with endless busy work. The church will fill your free time up with so many assignments that you won't have any time to do non church things. Once you hit bishop level the church is pretty much another full time job. It sounds horrid but I once was in a meeting with a Mormon apostle and what was brought up was finding bishops. We thought it would be difficult to find people willing to put that much time into a non-paid, volunteer role. Not to mention all the wackos in your congregation love to call you at 3:00AM with their problems. The apostle said oh finding bishops is easy because so many people want the status of the calling. He said the hardest position in the church to fill is finding decent scoutmasters. So it's all about making people feel special and exploiting their egos. The Mormon church is an absolute master at this. You know the scene in Tom Sawyer where Tom gets all the other kids in town to not only paint the fence for him but pay for the privilege of doing so. The same con is done by religious organizations.

I don't think we are as sophisticated as we would like to think we are. People are actually quite predictable. We don't like change, we don't handle power well, we are scared of death, we want acceptance, we want to be special, We want to be part of something; especially, something unique and important. Religion only exploits our human desires and wants. A good way to spot a con is when they tell you how special you are and then get very angry when you don't see things the same way.

Frankly my dad stayed active in the Mormon church to his dying day because he made enough money that donating 10% had tax advantages for him. The church kept good records so if there ever was an audit no problems there. He also, made a lot of money being a contractor in church financed construction projects. He also loved the social aspect of the church and loved feeling needed. My dad was a workaholic that loved to be the problem solver. I think his happiest years was when he served as bishop. I wasn't wired that way. The church filled no need and was basically in my way. So I disappointed a lot of relatives including my in-laws by leaving. Oh yeah, whenever there is a family wedding, I don't get to go because I don't have that special admittance card to get into the temple. So if all your relatives and community are Mormon there is hell to pay. That's how the system works. Some people like my dad actually liked it because it fed their ego, their wallets, or it made them feel special. For me there was nothing there that I wanted and I knew that from when I was really little. The problem is most people don't have the balls to leave. They are too worried what others might think of them. Which brings in what the church is another master at exploiting and that is peer pressure.

So there are no accidents in the church and everything is carefully planned for effect. Most the people being manipulated are there because the church fills a need or they are just too concerned about a poor personal image to make the move on leaving.

What I came to find is the doctrine and dogma is just filler. It's actually not that important. We could base everything around the spaghetti noodle god or whatever. The key to make a multi-generational church work is social engineering. You have to get members to marry other members and fill up all their free time with church activities. Go sit by a group of Mormons at a restaurant an see how much their church activity fills the conversation. You have to make the church part of their lives and make the church leadership unquestioned authority figures. What is actually taught is not as important as getting everyone to church and getting them to do everything the church tells them to do.