The great job conundrum...

[BITEYOASS]

I'm kind of glad I got fired from my last job. Because the place was a shithole, literally! There was fuckin' dog shit and rat shit EVERYWHERE! Hell, I'm glad I don't have rabies.

[kwame k]

I'm kind of glad I got fired from my last job. Because the place was a shithole, literally! There was fuckin' dog shit and rat shit EVERYWHERE! Hell, I'm glad I don't have rabies.

Jesus......please tell me it wasn't a restaurant

[Dan]

Aim High,Send Sir Peter Jackson Some Of Your Stuff.:D

[So this is love]

People don't get me started on this subject I have seen the mother of all rats in person.......and all the butt kissers an office can hire....But I will tell you something These butt kissers will never fucking know the great VH experience Live.......b/c Talent don't mean a freaking thing in this world, its who you know NOT what you know...But there are exceptions...so keep the spirit b/c Dave is a positive minded guy and that's all that counts. CHEERS!!!!!!!!!!!

[BITEYOASS]

Jesus......please tell me it wasn't a restaurant

No, it was an electrical contractor.

[academic punk]

JJ -

In terms of how annoying your current workmates/peers/managers are, remember this: no matter who you are - whether it's a janitor at a McDonald's or Steve Jobs - you always dream bigger than what you have actually achieved. no one aspires to clean toilets for a living. (eventually life can beat you down so bad that you're grateful for even that job, but that's another story). And even Steve Jobs dreamt of an iphone that never needed replacement and saved the planet from deforestation (or whatever). And lest we forget, in 2002, we all wished we were Steve Jobs. Now? Well, he might have accomplished a whole lot, but he can no longer enjoy time with his family and loved ones.

Your managers might be dicks, but they're also wondering what would be out there for them if they showed up tomorrow to discover the company had gone bankrupt overnight. The women might be gossipy housewives who have no fucking taste in music, but I guarantee they would take a bullet for their children or grandchildren. We're all just attempting to get through this life, however we can.

Be responsible. The company hired you not for anything more than your ability to pay off their investment in you. That means you have to be worth AT LEAST what they pay you. If you pay for stock in a company, a newspaper delivery, or a frontrow seat to see VH, you want a RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT. Your managers want you there to see how you can make that salary they pay you worth their while. That means when your name comes up in managers meetings, you want at least one of them THINKING< "Can't lose that guy. He makes me look good." rather than three of them saying, "What a whiner. He spends more time sulking and complaining than working."

Trust me. The effort to make them look good will pay off for you in CREATING A WORK ETHIC FOR YOURSELF. In creating a REPUTATION for others. In not looking back 20 years from now and find yourself admitting, "Geez, in retrospect, I also would've fired me for my shitty attitude."

[chefcraig]

Yes, but in the meantime, JJ should also remember these fine words of advice of future Senator John Blutarsky from the acclaimed documentary Animal House:

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."

[academic punk]

Yes, but in the meantime, JJ should also remember these fine words of advice of future Senator John Blutarsky from the acclaimed documentary Animal House:

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."

It bears confirming that this too is a valid perspective.

[SunisinuS]

JJ -

In terms of how annoying your current workmates/peers/managers are, remember this: no matter who you are - whether it's a janitor at a McDonald's or Steve Jobs - you always dream bigger than what you have actually achieved. no one aspires to clean toilets for a living. (eventually life can beat you down so bad that you're grateful for even that job, but that's another story). And even Steve Jobs dreamt of an iphone that never needed replacement and saved the planet from deforestation (or whatever). And lest we forget, in 2002, we all wished we were Steve Jobs. Now? Well, he might have accomplished a whole lot, but he can no longer enjoy time with his family and loved ones.

Your managers might be dicks, but they're also wondering what would be out there for them if they showed up tomorrow to discover the company had gone bankrupt overnight. The women might be gossipy housewives who have no fucking taste in music, but I guarantee they would take a bullet for their children or grandchildren. We're all just attempting to get through this life, however we can.

Be responsible. The company hired you not for anything more than your ability to pay off their investment in you. That means you have to be worth AT LEAST what they pay you. If you pay for stock in a company, a newspaper delivery, or a frontrow seat to see VH, you want a RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT. Your managers want you there to see how you can make that salary they pay you worth their while. That means when your name comes up in managers meetings, you want at least one of them THINKING< "Can't lose that guy. He makes me look good." rather than three of them saying, "What a whiner. He spends more time sulking and complaining than working."

Trust me. The effort to make them look good will pay off for you in CREATING A WORK ETHIC FOR YOURSELF. In creating a REPUTATION for others. In not looking back 20 years from now and find yourself admitting, "Geez, in retrospect, I also would've fired me for my shitty attitude."

Props.

The key is to be a working person. Use your Ethic to produce. They will never stop you if you provide the pay back that we all know you can provide.

Push. Never Stop. Push.

[ashstralia]

JJ, how about an e biz where you do portraits of families/pets/kids etc off photo's with a fast turnaround? i don't know if such businesses exist (probly),
i do know it sounds a bit whoreish. as a muso of 23 years i've felt like a whore plenty of times. usually only until the cheque clears.

[FORD]

Yeah, I gave up on the idea of becoming a high school teacher for remarkably similar reasoning.

[JJtheVagPounder]

JJ -

In terms of how annoying your current workmates/peers/managers are, remember this: no matter who you are - whether it's a janitor at a McDonald's or Steve Jobs - you always dream bigger than what you have actually achieved. no one aspires to clean toilets for a living. (eventually life can beat you down so bad that you're grateful for even that job, but that's another story). And even Steve Jobs dreamt of an iphone that never needed replacement and saved the planet from deforestation (or whatever). And lest we forget, in 2002, we all wished we were Steve Jobs. Now? Well, he might have accomplished a whole lot, but he can no longer enjoy time with his family and loved ones.

Your managers might be dicks, but they're also wondering what would be out there for them if they showed up tomorrow to discover the company had gone bankrupt overnight. The women might be gossipy housewives who have no fucking taste in music, but I guarantee they would take a bullet for their children or grandchildren. We're all just attempting to get through this life, however we can.

Be responsible. The company hired you not for anything more than your ability to pay off their investment in you. That means you have to be worth AT LEAST what they pay you. If you pay for stock in a company, a newspaper delivery, or a frontrow seat to see VH, you want a RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT. Your managers want you there to see how you can make that salary they pay you worth their while. That means when your name comes up in managers meetings, you want at least one of them THINKING< "Can't lose that guy. He makes me look good." rather than three of them saying, "What a whiner. He spends more time sulking and complaining than working."

Trust me. The effort to make them look good will pay off for you in CREATING A WORK ETHIC FOR YOURSELF. In creating a REPUTATION for others. In not looking back 20 years from now and find yourself admitting, "Geez, in retrospect, I also would've fired me for my shitty attitude."

I know what you’re saying. And forgive me please if I came off as a whiner. In actuality, I kind of repress most of my anger. Most of it. It’s just shitty that they want to come here and do this song and dance, but will write me up if I do a song and dance. And then, to top it off, they want to take as much enjoyment out of it as they can. I know I know, if it was fun it wouldn’t be called work. However, and this is no exaggeration or bullshit, about a year and a half ago the call center director stated that if anyone laughed on the floor they would be sent home for three days without pay. You can’t make this shit up.

As for my work ethic, it’s already good. While the rest of my “team” says that they don’t get paid enough to bust their asses I sit here taking up 50% of the work. That’s a lot considering I have 2-4 people working with me at any given time. I just can’t help it. I fucking work. And because of the amount I work my pay does not reflect it at all. This is the Roth Army, a second or third family of sorts, so I’ll share my wages with you. $12.50 an hour. Actually that’s not true. I recently got a review which outlined my production and they gave me a 25 cent raise. That’s 10 bucks a week. I can make it rain on them hoes! Maybe not rain, more like a mist. I make it mist. Seeing as how I am NOT ALLOWED TO WORK OVERTIME LEST I GET WRITTEN UP that is $26,520 a year if I work 40 hours a week (let’s not get me started on holidays. Remember that 10.5 hour Sunday? Yeah, I only got paid for 7.5 of those hours for Christmas and New Years). It makes it difficult for a married student.

Like I said earlier, inside I am grateful that I even have a job. However, from the inefficient management team to the humiliating and ridiculous demands, it just feels like this company is hell-bent on making sure we are as miserable as their imaginations would allow. Of course I don’t trot around explaining my misery. I try not to talk to my coworkers too much. So no, I will not be remembered here as the guy that bitches all the time. I’ll most likely be remembered as that sucker they got so much work out of.

[ZahZoo]

Something I learned a long time ago and try to teach as much as possible... Most people don't earn a living doing the things they love to do.

More often than not... the job is just a vehicle to allow you to do the things that you love to do. So treat and view the job as a trusty tool.

Simple analogy... we all got to eat. Some even love to eat. View your job like your pots, pans, dishes and silverware. You wash them after each use and put them away neatly in a place so they are there the next time you need it. You'd never throw away all your dishes because you hate them and plan to get a new set next week... same with a job. Occasionally you'll sharpen those knives to they at least function or function better... invest in an upgrade if what you got isn't good enough. Same thing as a job...

Too often we allow ourselves to build an identity around our jobs/career... then we all hate it because we'd rather do what we love and most jobs ain't it. Treat the job as a tool... take care of it, but put it away when it's not needed. Spend that energy hating the job on something you like... In the long run the change in mind-set will do you wonders...

[POJO_Risin]

Something I learned a long time ago and try to teach as much as possible... Most people don't earn a living doing the things they love to do.

More often than not... the job is just a vehicle to allow you to do the things that you love to do. So treat and view the job as a trusty tool.

Simple analogy... we all got to eat. Some even love to eat. View your job like your pots, pans, dishes and silverware. You wash them after each use and put them away neatly in a place so they are there the next time you need it. You'd never throw away all your dishes because you hate them and plan to get a new set next week... same with a job. Occasionally you'll sharpen those knives to they at least function or function better... invest in an upgrade if what you got isn't good enough. Same thing as a job...

Too often we allow ourselves to build an identity around our jobs/career... then we all hate it because we'd rather do what we love and most jobs ain't it. Treat the job as a tool... take care of it, but put it away when it's not needed. Spend that energy hating the job on something you like... In the long run the change in mind-set will do you wonders...

Great Post...

[JJtheVagPounder]

You're right. It isn't worth my time being all butthurt. However, did you see the part about Ice Cream Man? Come on. Who doesn't love that song?