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  • envy_me
    Swedish Love Pump
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Dec 2010
    • 7180

    Originally posted by Yount
    Although what is rom? Never had that.
    Sorry, I just realized that it's called rum in english. My bad.
    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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    • Angel
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7481

      Originally posted by envy_me
      They have to write that and all sorts of other warnings, otherwise if something would happend, they'd be responsible. There is absolutely no negative effects in mixing alcohol with non-prescription medicine.... I think.
      Mixing alcohol with Tylenol can be deadly. Tylenol is extremely hard on the liver, and the liver can't handle too much of both.
      "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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      • envy_me
        Swedish Love Pump
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Dec 2010
        • 7180

        Originally posted by Angel
        Mixing alcohol with Tylenol can be deadly. Tylenol is extremely hard on the liver, and the liver can't handle too much of both.
        Didn't know that. How come? Since Tylenol seems to be only paracetamol which certanly isn't deadly or dangerous with alcohol, if you are a healthy person in general.


        Edit: I found this:
        Dr. Elizabeth Roth, an internist at Massachusetts General Hospital, said drinking before taking the recommended dose of acetaminophen-based medications may not be a big issue for some people, although she does not advise it. In patients without underlying liver disease and who are not chronic alcoholics, acute alcohol intake is not a risk factor for liver damage from acetaminophen, she says.

        "The bottom line is that for the otherwise healthy person without chronic liver disease or a history of alcoholism, they don't have to wait before taking two regular Tylenol after having a drink. But no medical advice fits all patients," she said in an e-mail.

        Other factors can increase the likelihood of acetaminophen-related liver damage, including old age, poor nutritional status, co-existing illnesses, and particular genetic makeups. Moreover, the toxic dose among individuals can vary. A person's baseline levels of glutathione - a chemical involved in metabolism - play a role in the acetaminophen levels at which toxicity can occur, Roth said.


        Source: http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2009/0...fter-drinking/

        Cool that her name is Roth :-)
        Last edited by envy_me; 09-11-2012, 09:34 AM.
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        • ZahZoo
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 8972

          Originally posted by Yount
          it's prescription. i'm going to have "just a tipple" with a bit of food n take it easy
          Wise advice... if you are sick and recovering getting blasted on alcohol isn't going to help... ever.

          Those of you considering science experiments mixing prescription or non-prescription drugs with alcohol you really are taking some serious risks... that aren't worth it. One your body may not react to the combination the same as others. Two... for how long it takes for drugs and alcohol to fully kick in, you will have consumed too much before you even know it... and then it's already too late for some.
          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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          • envy_me
            Swedish Love Pump
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Dec 2010
            • 7180

            Yeah, if you're sick and recovering, the body will have to take care of the alcohol instead of dealing with your desiese and you won't recover as fast.

            I wonder if meds and pot mix well. That might be to perfer since liver isn't dealing with disposal of the pot.
            The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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            • Angel
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7481

              Originally posted by envy_me
              Didn't know that. How come? Since Tylenol seems to be only paracetamol which certanly isn't deadly or dangerous with alcohol, if you are a healthy person in general.


              Edit: I found this:
              Dr. Elizabeth Roth, an internist at Massachusetts General Hospital, said drinking before taking the recommended dose of acetaminophen-based medications may not be a big issue for some people, although she does not advise it. In patients without underlying liver disease and who are not chronic alcoholics, acute alcohol intake is not a risk factor for liver damage from acetaminophen, she says.

              "The bottom line is that for the otherwise healthy person without chronic liver disease or a history of alcoholism, they don't have to wait before taking two regular Tylenol after having a drink. But no medical advice fits all patients," she said in an e-mail.

              Other factors can increase the likelihood of acetaminophen-related liver damage, including old age, poor nutritional status, co-existing illnesses, and particular genetic makeups. Moreover, the toxic dose among individuals can vary. A person's baseline levels of glutathione - a chemical involved in metabolism - play a role in the acetaminophen levels at which toxicity can occur, Roth said.


              Cool that her name is Roth :-)
              I'm surprised she didn't mention those who abuse acetaminophen products. The reason percocet is dangerous is more because of the risk of liver damage related to the acetaminophen than the codeine.
              "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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              • envy_me
                Swedish Love Pump
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Dec 2010
                • 7180

                Originally posted by Angel
                I'm surprised she didn't mention those who abuse acetaminophen products. The reason percocet is dangerous is more because of the risk of liver damage related to the acetaminophen than the codeine.
                Percocet is narcotics, it is morphine. That is totally different from Tylenol. You need prescription for that. Here at least.
                The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                • Angel
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7481

                  Originally posted by envy_me
                  Percocet is narcotics, it is morphine. That is totally different from Tylenol. You need prescription for that. Here at least.
                  Percocet is an opiate, but not morphine. It's acetaminophen and codeine. I used to monitor narcotic prescriptions when I worked at the College of Physicians and Surgeons of AB. One of my tasks was to ensure that Dr's that were prescribing it were getting liver panels done on the patient on a monthly basis due to the risk caused by the acetaminophen. When it comes to opiates, I have a pretty solid knowledge base. I did that job for 4 years.
                  "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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                  • envy_me
                    Swedish Love Pump
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7180

                    Originally posted by Angel
                    Percocet is an opiate, but not morphine. It's acetaminophen and codeine. I used to monitor narcotic prescriptions when I worked at the College of Physicians and Surgeons of AB. One of my tasks was to ensure that Dr's that were prescribing it were getting liver panels done on the patient on a monthly basis due to the risk caused by the acetaminophen. When it comes to opiates, I have a pretty solid knowledge base. I did that job for 4 years.
                    Ok, I thought it was, since it is made from poppy. Well, anyway, Tylenol is a different thing.
                    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                    • PETE'S BROTHER
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 12678

                      Originally posted by envy_me
                      Yeah, if you're sick and recovering, the body will have to take care of the alcohol instead of dealing with your desiese and you won't recover as fast.

                      I wonder if meds and pot mix well. That might be to perfer since liver isn't dealing with disposal of the pot.
                      pot mixes well with everything
                      Last edited by PETE'S BROTHER; 09-11-2012, 11:43 AM. Reason: boobs
                      Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32798

                        They say pot dumbs you down. Society is already as stupid as it can get so toke up, we have nothing to lose.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          Originally posted by ZahZoo
                          Wise advice... if you are sick and recovering getting blasted on alcohol isn't going to help... ever.

                          Those of you considering science experiments mixing prescription or non-prescription drugs with alcohol you really are taking some serious risks... that aren't worth it. One your body may not react to the combination the same as others. Two... for how long it takes for drugs and alcohol to fully kick in, you will have consumed too much before you even know it... and then it's already too late for some.
                          Mix Phenol Barbitol with alcohol and you will get an instant trip to Hell. I say say hell because nobody is good enough to make it to heaven. Dream on.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • envy_me
                            Swedish Love Pump
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7180

                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            They say pot dumbs you down. Society is already as stupid as it can get so toke up, we have nothing to lose.
                            I'd rather be dumb and happy then smart and depressed... I always envied my ex.
                            The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                            • envy_me
                              Swedish Love Pump
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7180

                              Originally posted by Nitro Express
                              Mix Phenol Barbitol with alcohol and you will get an instant trip to Hell. I say say hell because nobody is good enough to make it to heaven. Dream on.
                              When me and my friend were abroad, she found some tabletts on the beach, and couldn't wait to try them. There was no label or anything, we had no idea what it was. But I refused, she eventually got what I was saying.
                              I mean, we had NO idea what it was. She was expecting some sort of trip, what if they cause diarrhea. Or worse.
                              The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                              • ZahZoo
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 8972

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                Mix Phenol Barbitol with alcohol and you will get an instant trip to Hell. I say say hell because nobody is good enough to make it to heaven. Dream on.
                                No doubt... limited options. Serious brain/neurological damage or a dirt nap... Sadly I've seen both results from folks playing mix and match crap shoots.
                                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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