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  • envy_me
    Swedish Love Pump
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Dec 2010
    • 7180

    #61
    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    A lot of people think working as a temp will be a foot in the door. Working in management in the corporate world this is what I learned about it. If you are good employee as a temp, your manager or your department would love to hire you full time. The problem is the company won't let them hire you. I've only seen one person get hired full time from a temp position and he was an engineer. It was at Hewlett Packard and the company had a bias towards hiring people with engineering backgrounds. So they snagged him. People in office positions or working the customer service center had no hope in hell of getting a full time gig.

    A temp makes money and that's about it. It leads nowhere in most cases. It certainly is not the road to a long-term career.
    But what choice does one have? It's either work with no benefits or starve with no benefits. Is there any way of getting a real employment nowdays?

    In some way I can understand the companies. I don't know how it's over there, but here the union has made it almost impossible to fire anybody. No matter how bad they are or how many mistakes they make. We tried to fire one woman. It took a good year to do it, after countless meetings, threats and the whole shop being forced to see psychologist. It was hell. The only thing that did it in the end is that people from the union got sick of her finally.
    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #62
      Originally posted by envy_me
      But what choice does one have? It's either work with no benefits or starve with no benefits. Is there any way of getting a real employment nowdays?

      In some way I can understand the companies. I don't know how it's over there, but here the union has made it almost impossible to fire anybody. No matter how bad they are or how many mistakes they make. We tried to fire one woman. It took a good year to do it, after countless meetings, threats and the whole shop being forced to see psychologist. It was hell. The only thing that did it in the end is that people from the union got sick of her finally.
      Yeah. Work for yourself. Bad times puts fire on people's asses to do something themselves. This is why some great businesses actually start in economic down times. When nobody is going to help you, you help yourself. Of course the mass majority don't do this but who wants to be in the majority? It's like sports. There are only a few people who excel. Everything is that way. Music is that way. Most people will just stand around and get angry and find a scape goat to blame the problems on. History is full of that bullshit. The smart people just realize life isn't fair, and work themselves out of the shitty mess. Some end up in a very good place. The reality of it is nobody cares about you more than you, so stop thinking someone is going to ride in on a white horse and save you. It always amazes me people thing these con artist politicians are actually going to help them. All they want you for is a captive voting base and that is their only incentive to help you.

      Ah once you just accept life is a bitch and blow it off, it opens the door to all sorts of opportunities because you are no longer worried about how unfair it is and angry someone has more than you do and this and that. It's a jungle and you are just concerned about how you get through the jungle and what do you want out of it?

      To be successful you really do have to be different from the pack. It's like investing. There is no opportunity where the mass majority is hanging around. Be unique and be a little different and that is what will draw people to you. Why do people like David Lee Roth? He's different from the pack and he does his thing very very well.

      If you are single with no children and healthy, damn you are free free free. You could be flat broke and you still are free. You have no baggage. You can go anywhere or do anything.
      Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-26-2012, 05:50 AM.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #63
        Originally posted by envy_me
        But what choice does one have? It's either work with no benefits or starve with no benefits. Is there any way of getting a real employment nowdays?

        In some way I can understand the companies. I don't know how it's over there, but here the union has made it almost impossible to fire anybody. No matter how bad they are or how many mistakes they make. We tried to fire one woman. It took a good year to do it, after countless meetings, threats and the whole shop being forced to see psychologist. It was hell. The only thing that did it in the end is that people from the union got sick of her finally.
        Oh there is a time and place for unions but the problem is the unions become as corrupt as what they originally organized against. My dad had a union company and he just could no longer compete with the non-union outfits. About the only thing good I got from a union was some good health insurance. Paying the union dues were worth it just to get into the group policy.

        The problem in the US is funds started owning the company stocks instead of individuals. So fund managers owned the stock and all they cared about was the stock price. It used to be that major stockholders were the founders of the company or their family. Hewlett-Packard was a great company to work for when Dave Packard still owned controlling shares. Once his shares were sold and Wall Street owned them, things changed for the worst.

        People bash the rich across the board today. What they don't realize is it's some of those rich people owning controlling shares that made some of these companies good to work for. Not all rich people are bad people. The problem really is with the investment banks and the central banks.

        Also computers became the problem. In the 1960's the markets were limited by how much clerks could process. With computers now there is automated trading and with money being electronic now it can be traded at the speed of light. This opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans. In fact, the abuse of computers and software has ruined the integrity of the markets. It's made them the land of make believe. There is not reality to them anymore and this is a huge problem.
        Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-26-2012, 06:03 AM.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #64
          That video does not do that salt cathedral justice. It's huge in there. They actually had to build a partician across the back of it because it's bigger than St. Peter's in Rome. All the statues and everything are made from salt. Some places just can't be captured on video. This is such a place. You have to be there. It's like the great pyramid. You can see pictures of it and video of it but you have to be there to experience why it's a big deal.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32942

            #65
            Life is all about eating and smiling. And everybody wants some. Dave had it nailed.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Von Halen
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Dec 2003
              • 7557

              #66
              Shoes, open a Tim Hortons right next door to those DD fuckers! It's better coffee anyway!

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              • Sensible Shoes
                Full Member Status

                • Oct 2009
                • 4648

                #67
                That would be a scream.

                Course, if I had that kinda money, I'd just buy the DD and fire the managing company!

                Oh dear.

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                • twonabomber
                  formerly F A T
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11294

                  #68
                  local NBC station is looking for a exec producer for the 11 pm show...
                  Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                  • ZahZoo
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 9168

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sensible Shoes
                    They say they can't do anything for me cause my experience is too narrow.
                    Try some of the larger national contracting firms... they have jobs all over the US entry level to top tier, plus many offer remote/telecommuting or work from home assignments in various IT, Tech and general business type jobs.

                    Here's some of the bigger ones... CDI, APEC, Artech, Pomeroy, Pitney Bowles, Apollo, Temco

                    While your experience may have been focused on the media industry and proprietary software products, all of the associated soft skills are transferable. Play them up generically in your resume... office management, project management, administrative functions, financial/budget management... in other words strip off the News media skin and position the resume in highlighting your functional skills rather than the industry you worked.
                    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                    • envy_me
                      Swedish Love Pump
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7180

                      #70
                      Shoes... Me and you... In the mine?
                      The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                      • Sensible Shoes
                        Full Member Status

                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4648

                        #71
                        Aw thanks sweetie,, but I'm way too old for such physical labor.

                        Oh dear.

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                        • jhale667
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 20929

                          #72
                          Ever been in a mine? Terrifying...did a tour of one once and that was enough. I'm not even remotely claustrophobic, but I was that day! There's a reason why it pays as well as it does... reason being you could DIE at any moment.
                          Originally posted by conmee
                          If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                          That is all.

                          Icon.
                          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                          Originally posted by Isaac R.
                          Then it's really true??

                          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                          Originally posted by eddie78
                          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                          • envy_me
                            Swedish Love Pump
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7180

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Sensible Shoes
                            Aw thanks sweetie,, but I'm way too old for such physical labor.
                            I think machines do most of the hard work.
                            The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                            • envy_me
                              Swedish Love Pump
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7180

                              #74
                              Originally posted by jhale667
                              Ever been in a mine? Terrifying...did a tour of one once and that was enough. I'm not even remotely claustrophobic, but I was that day! There's a reason why it pays as well as it does... reason being you could DIE at any moment.
                              I have never been in a mine. Maybe one gets used to it with time.
                              The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                              • PETE'S BROTHER
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 12678

                                #75
                                Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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