The Sheep Pen

**Bill Lumbergh** · 10-29-2004, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Chewi
Hilarious! I'd never seen The Pen before.

Hey, you need another vote man! Here ya go.........

**Bill Lumbergh** · 10-29-2004, 04:10 PM

vanhalencock has never been one for sports. However, dog shows like the one here have always kept him on the edge of his seat..........for some unknown reason he always has to make a mad dash to the bathroom after watching.........

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:27 PM

To start with, I would like to dedicate this Assclown award to our SOTW, vanhalenrock! Sheep, you have EARNED it!!

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:28 PM

I spoke earlier today with vanhalenrock's fellow employees, just so we could get a better understanding of this weeks sheep. Here's what they had to say about him.

**Bill Lumbergh** · 10-29-2004, 05:30 PM

Well, look who woke up!

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:34 PM

Hey everybody! Looks like rockvanhalen is getting into the courtyard exercise regiment with some of the others!

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:36 PM

I got a letter from Johnny the Bear the other day...he asked me if we were indeed going to be inducting vanhalenrock as sheep of the week today - I told him yes - he asked me if he could treat rockvanhalen like the bitch sheep that he is...

I asked him to elaborate in the letter I sent back to him. His reply consisted only of this picture:

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:38 PM

Whats that, vanhalenrock? You want some grain?

FUCK THAT!

**Rikk** · 10-29-2004, 05:43 PM

Okay. I'm confused. So, there's a COCKVANHALEN69 and also VANHALENCOCK. Right?

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:45 PM

Don't worry vanhalenrock...diaper and poop boy will show you the ropes...

**diamondsgirl** · 10-29-2004, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Rikk
Okay. I'm confused. So, there's a COCKVANHALEN69 and also VANHALENCOCK. Right?

All these sheep start to look alike after a while don't they?:D

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Rikk
Okay. I'm confused. So, there's a COCKVANHALEN69 and also VANHALENCOCK. Right?

yup...

**Rikk** · 10-29-2004, 05:47 PM

Gotcha.

I'm not back yet. But I just thought I'd visit. Can I kick VANHALENCOCK on my way out of the Pen?

**bueno bob** · 10-29-2004, 05:55 PM

Feel free

He's waiting...unsuspecting stupid animals...

**guwapo_rocker** · 10-29-2004, 10:48 PM

Couldn't keep your yap shut could you Rikky......

See the Sheep in action.....

More quotes from Rikky Retardo:

Rikk
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Posted 02.02.02 09:45 AM

RIGHT NOW isn't a ballad, is it? No, of course it's not. TAKE ME BACK? No, that's not a ballad. Great song, though.

I guess I'd have to say WHEN IT'S LOVE if I really have to pick one. It is extremely well-written, I'd have to say. Great hook, great melodies.

Hi Walter.

It's kind of a typical thing for bands to release longer versions of albums in overseas markets so that fans will have to shell out and buy another copy of the album. I DID! I never got the CD-single because the Japanese version of the album seemed easier to find, but it cost me a bitch (from the Inside store).

I really like CROSSING OVER. I think it's better than a lot of the stuff off of BALANCE. I've never been a huge fan of the first three tracks on that album, and feel that the album starts kicking in with AMSTERDAM. I do think that the band could have easily cut off some of BALANCE's real fluff, like STRUNG OUT, DOIN' TIME or BALUCHITHERIUM and put CROSSING OVER in its place. Sammy pushed for it do get on the album, but obviously he didn't seem to have much say anymore. Fairbairn was a great producer, but his opinion that CROSSING OVER is too dark for the rest of the album yet putting three instrumentals was a good idea just boggles my mind. It's enough to see a drum solo at a concert, but on an album? And STRUNG OUT is crap.

Oh well. It's a good song.

They did the same with BEST OF, VOL. 1. HOT FOR TEACHER appears on the Japanese version of that album but not on the American version. It's kind of ridiculous that a song like HOT FOR TEACHER (one of their best known songs) doesn't make the best of album, but something like POUNDCAKE (which is not one of my favorites and not nearly as well known) does.

I thought they were going to do the same with VH3. I thought that THAT'S WHY I LOVE YA would have ended up on the Japanese release, but it didn't.

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Posted 02.13.02 09:28 PM

Hey, it's a great album. It's no 1984, FAIR WARNING, etc. But BLACK N' BLUE, CABO WABO, FEELS SO GOOD and AFU are all great songs. MINE ALL MINE is also amazing!

To this day, I still hate FINISH WHAT YA STARTED more than almost any other VH song. It's bad country. That's what it is. Plus it has some of the most moronic lyrics in history. Mind you, BLACK N' BLUE's lyrics aren't exactly Shakespeare, but the music and vocals are still amazing in that one. BLACK N' BLUE is probably my second-favorite Hagar-era VH song (after HUMANS BEING).
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Yeah, they do often make stupid choices for singles. While I don't like the F.U.C.K. album, releasing RIGHT NOW as the first single would have been a great decision. It was THE song of the album. I never liked POUNDCAKE...no hook to me in it. Even Eddie's work is pretty boring, and it sounds like bad arena rock (no flames, please...I just don't like it). Same with BALANCE. I really don't like any of the singles off that album. DON'T TELL ME is nowhere near the standout cut of the album for me. I would have thrown out AFTERSHOCK or even TAKE ME BACK (both great songs).

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Posted 07.28.02 07:17 PM

BLACK N' BLUE is one of my favorite Van Hagar songs. I like it so much because it is much rawer and reminds me of the Dave days. It's not nearly as polished as some of the other "corporate" stuff. It is probably the main reason OU812 is my favorite Van Hagar album. It's great to know that I'm not the only one who loves the song!

As for CAN'T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE, the music was apparently written and recorded during the BALANCE sessions as "BACKDOOR SHUFFLE." Dave recorded new vocals over it for the BEST OF (ME WISE MAGIC was brand new), and Hagar apparently later sued the band because Dave slightly borrowed the melody on the chorus from Sam's original vocal (he had an out-of-court settlement for $5000).

I agree. BLACK N' BLUE really was the last time the band released a hardcore rock n' roll single until HUMANS BEING, ME WISE MAGIC, and possibly WITHOUT YOU.

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I have to relisten to SUCKER IN A 3-PIECE to hear that lyric. You know, that's probably one of my most underlistened VH songs, only because there's no hook in it I really like. Good playing, though.

As for JUDGMENT DAY, the argument I was agreeing with was based on singles, not actual songs. JUDGMENT DAY was not a single (not that I know of, anyway). I'm definitely not saying that BLACK 'N' BLUE was the last rock song until ME WISE MAGIC, just the last real rock single. That's the thing with Hagar albums: too many songs to skip through to get to the good ones...especially on F.U.C.K. I agree that JUDGMENT DAY stands out, as well as PLEASURE DOME and even RIGHT NOW (though it's overplayed). But the rest of the album is a big bore for me.

I agree. I far prefer Dave, but HUMANS BEING and BLACK 'N' BLUE are amazing.

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I 100% agree. Sam's melodies are good, and the solo sequence is great. What an awesome riff to solo over, and then Eddie doubles the bass part making the solo riff so much heavier. I completely love the song. Great drum sound too! And it was amazing live in Toronto.

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Posted 07.29.02 11:05 PM

I was at the Toronto show. Mike did have a solo. In fact, they did cut some songs for the PPV. The Canadian MUCHMUSIC broadcast aired AFTERSHOCK instead of AMSTERDAM (I was at the second show with AFTERSHOCK, not AMSTERDAM), and also aired the RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL/ONE WAY TO ROCK bit. JUMP was also aired, and although it is better than the horror that was included on RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, I still don't feel that Sam ever pulled this song off. Anyway, the MUCHMUSIC broadcast was actually shorter, missing other songs in the actual PPV.

The show was good...I like watching the video. But when I was at the show, I was actually a little under-whelmed. It was my first VH show, and although it was very good, it was not the legendary rock spectacle that I came to know through the Roth videos I own. I guess I like live entertainment and not just a band playing their songs and smiling.

Still, it was a very professional, excellently-played concert. And the vibe by the lake was excellent. It was a nice surprise to see AMSTERDAM when I watched the video. And FEELIN' was excellent...the sun was almost down, and the vibe was amazing.

It's definitely the Hagar tour I'm glad I caught them on. And it was still 1000 times better than the VH3 show I caught three years later in Toronto.

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