The Sheep Pen

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
hey rikk, you fucking sheep. just wondering if you got the 1988 bootleg vh show from japan.....i know your a closet hagar fan....

and then you come on here and bash other people for liking sammy fronted halen......time to shave the wool off your eyes their fool.....


it's ok to like both rikk, but dont sit and bash other people for it


now get your cabo wabo ass in the fucking pen, you little bitch

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Mrs Houdini
A witchhunt Rikk, you mean like the one you pulled on me??? Spending ages pulling my anti Dave comments from another site during a time when I was pro- Sammy, anti roth for the lead singer for VH??? Let's see here??? HUH... You said that this WHOLE war with me started because I said Sammy was sexy in the "Finish What You Started" video. Don't tell me it had ANYTHING to do with those anti Roth posts because those were posted at the LINKS, you were a member there and you have even said you left there because of them, yet you sent me a PM HERE, after them, and before the Sam was sexy comment, saying I was a cool poster and you had no beef with me... So What is it Rikk??? Now that you have been outted for likeing some Hagar yourself it is suddenly ok??? to like a liitle Hagar??? Funny how you keep posting the SAME handful of negative Dave posts but Guwapo keeps finding MORE and MORE Hagar Loving posts of YOURS! Another thing, I may be one kind of sheep... But what about the countless other Hagar fans that you have trashed? How do you differ from THEM? Your a hypocrite. Plain and simple! I admit I made some distastful comments about Roth at time when I was turned off by his talents, I'm NOT going to explain it again. But I have always been honest about my likes and dislikes about this band. I don't SELL MYSELF OUT to try and fit in or be popular on some message board. YOUR PATHETIC!

For the record, I know you want to place all the people who are suddenly surfacing to state their hate for you as Fab supporters, hell I do too! Unfortunatly, that is not the case. While I still think Guwapo is a great poster, his beef with you is different than mine. Don't try and make light of it by trying to put it all in the Fab catagory. Guwapo and Pete have one mission, Chelle has hers and I have my own. The Fab saga is an easy out for you but the truth is, people are starting to see you for what you are. Sheesh, you call Max your friend but you even keep dragging him down with your inability to get along with people. He keeps sticking up for YOU but all your out for is yourself. No matter who you screw this site up for. But hey, as long as you enjoy it...

[tjvhou812]

Originally posted by Rikk
Okay. One more time class. When I was younger, I used to listen to Van Hagar even though I hated Sammy. I think a LOT of people at this site have been guilty about that. I did NOT buy the new album. I did NOT go see the new tour, unlike many of Guwapo's friends. When I posted at the Links (which started five years ago), it was inevitable that I would get talking to people about Van Halen. But anyway, here is a post I put in the Sheep Pen when Guwapo first attacked me a few weeks ago. This is what most of my Links posts were like. Guwapo keeps purposefully leaving this shit out...

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You want to call me a fucking bi-Halen fan? LOL!! Okay...this took me 10 fucking minutes to compile because it is so easy to find anti-Sammy, pro-Dave posts of mine at the Links.

They say that I'm a closet-Hagar fan and a hypocrite? Let's look at what the majority of my posts over there were like...Guwapo and Chelle and the others didn't really think you should see this...

Okay, first off, here's a recent post from this summer...but we'll get to the older ones later:

"I guess it still always boils down to opinion. I've heard Sammy say MANY things. I've heard him say that the original 6-pack were only good musically, I've heard him say that he'd go out and pick those albums up just for the guitar-work... Sam pretends he's a Van Halen fan, but the truth is, he doesn't even know all the band's songs. What I hate most about the Sammy-era was not just that I don't like Sam's stage-demeanor, voice, lyrics or politics...but also that the original Van Halen band was as dead as it could be. An entire song catalog was ignored, the band's image and attitude were more in-line with late 80's pop rock bands instead of the giant extraveganza they were in the late-70s and early-80s. And Sam simply acted as if this was the band. I've actually heard him in one interview call the Hagar-led Van Halen line-up "THE classic Van Halen". He really thinks he walked in and fixed up a broken band. And it disgusts me. But the thing I loved most about Van Halen in the 80s was that with all the horrible pop-rock bands around, Van Halen were sort of the rebels. They were huge, they sold tons of records...but they didn't jump on to the REO Speedwagon bandwagon...there's an episode of BEHIND THE MUSIC describing how Van Halen stood out in a cold, bleak time. Once Hagar joined...they WANTED to sound more like Journey, Styx, Def Leppard, etc. And that's fine...but you suddenly realized why the band thought Dave was controlling...he simply didn't want them going down that path."

Yeah, talk about a closet bi-Halener. And that's one of the nicest ones.

Here's one from this summer, but before I came to the Army. It's obvious how much I'm a "closet Sammy fan":

"Lyrics aren't necessarily what literally matter. I think James Brown accomplished more in his career with one song than Sam has in thirty years of mediocrity. Take SEX MACHINE...what's it about? Duh! But does it say it well? Damn straight! It's about attitude. Iggy Pop can tell you that any day. "I got a lust for life! Liquor and drugs!" Damn straight! It's not what's said, it's how it's said." People keep typing, "Nobody expects Van Halen to have intelligent lyrics." Absolutely right. But how about good lyrics? That's a totally different thing. MEAN STREET's lyrics surely aren't intelligent...but they sure are good. "Somebody said FAIR WARNING...Lord, strike that poor boy down!" Fuckin' A, Dave. That's a helluva lot more rock 'n' roll than "I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you no my heart is true...wo-oh...I can't stop lovin' you." C'mon...what is this? Grade 4 poetry day? Don't you think there's a reason that far more people would cringe at the second lyric? I'm not saying it's about comparing the intelligence of the two. I'm saying it's about the quality, attitude and originality. And the second lyric is about as original as taking off your clothes in a nudist colony.

Once again, it's obvious what the other idiots have been trying to prove with their witchhunt. And it's obvious that this needs to stop.

Here's me last Christmas when the new "reunion" was announced:
"Van Halen with Hagar is not a good enough reason for people to get excited again. It's like, "That line-up again? Ho hum." "

Yeah, man...I sure was lying about my past over here.

You want something older? No PROBLEM. This is the post that started a fight with Brett and made me leave the Links and VH-internet land for a year because I was always getting in trouble for fighting with Ched-heads:

"See, dummy, this is the problem. You read lyrics like that, YOU don't get it. To you it doesn't mean anything, because you don't understand the value of good wordplay, of attitude in the writing. You'll be happy if the lyrics stay as dumb and unchallenging as, "You miss a beat, you lose the rhythm." Wow, that's so profound. That's like saying, "When I go down, I'm not going up." Wow. How deep. You'll never get it, so fans like you will keep making unbelievably stupid comments like THE INSIDE is better than ME WISE MAGIC. All it's about, oh Sambo-heads, is that we think one singer is better because the music he's produced is consistently better, and maybe we think he looks better on stage.
"I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you know my heart is true...oh-ooh, I can't stop lovin' you." Yeah, Walt Whitman would be proud."

And here's my third-last post in VH land for a year...I'm obviously such a closet bi-Halen fan ::
"Brett, shove your forum up your ass. I knew you'd look."

Again, I'm cool with Brett because we're both people who disagreed. And I don't hate the man just because I don't agree 100% with him on his musical tastes.

I guess Pete and Guwapo forgot to cut and paste this post I made, from August 25, 2002 (when I was a Linker, "loving Hagar", and a "hypocrite"):
"Ridiculous...songs like "Voodoo Queen" are a million times better than horrible songs like "Spanked." And even with producers supervising, albums with Hagar are not nearly as timeless. Dave has been their first choice the last few years, so if it doesn't work out, music won't be the reason. There's obviously something personal. I would say Hagar will return only as a consolation prize for Dave not returning. Ed knows which of his songs are classics, and it sure ain't MAN ON A MISSION or SUCKER IN A 3-PIECE."

You know what's especially funny? I haven't had to search hard for these. It's almost like any post of mine I look at in my post list comes up with something like this...something trashing Hagar and cheering Dave. I fought with so many Ched-heads over there and finally came over here, voluntarily. I'm not banned anywhere (except at Chelle's site...LOL).

Here's yet another, kind of explaining my hatred of Sammy even though I own all the albums...my "enemies" had to look hard to find posts they could use...this one kind of puts it in perspective. This is also from 2002:

"And I don't like Sammy, so if he rejoins, I don't have to listen. It's not a matter of anger or "showing" Eddie...it's just that, after the last few months of thinking about it, I really don't want to hear more Van Halen with Sammy Hagar singing. The truth is, I just don't like the guy. I think he's an idiot and an asshole. But hey, it's just music."

Or how about this?:

"While I appreciate your idea, I just really want Dave back in the band full-time. If they don't want to do it, if they claim that can't happen, no problem. I don't have to listen."

Here's me in 2001, talking about YOU CAN'T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE:

"Be interested to hear the original version with Hagar singing. He later sued the band and won a settlement, claiming the melody Dave is singing is (in certain parts) the same one he came up with and recorded for the BALANCE album. Maybe he was just mad because the song suddenly had some balls. Old foagie."

There's SO MUCH more. I was a one-trick pony over there.

Did I post stuff about other Van Halen? Fuck yes. I've never denied a fucking thing about that. I've posted many times which shows I've been to. I've also been honest as shit about finally not being able to put up with VH anymore without Dave. And I've also been honest as hell about VH without Dave being nothing but a "consolation prize". I got into VH in 1984 when Dave appeared on my T.V. screen. Ed is a great guitar player, but I don't really care about that very much. Dave is the main reason I loved that band. I listened to the others, and as a younger person still tried to enjoy it all. But I was always loyal to one faction, and for a long time now, I've basically hated the other faction. And I always knew that there was nothing on Earth like VH with David Lee Roth. And I always hated Sammy himself. Simple to understand? I AM AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE BIGGEST DAVE-LOVER ON THE PLANET. I didn't go see them Van Hagar summer, I didn't buy the horrible BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, I didn't buy their new shitty DVD.

Any other questions, class? Do you doubt it? Go look at my posting history over there. Hell, ask Brett what I was like over there and why I fought so much. He'll tell you.
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enough with the crying......

we know you like sammy fronted halen

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Splooge owns your homo ass, get over it!!!FUCK YOU YA PUSSY!!!!!

Splooge is dead. "Trixie" stepped on him a few days ago and now he's garbage dump fodder...like you, ya piece of shit.

Shouldn't you be "hangin' out" at Chelle's site with the rest of FAB's friends? I hear you old guys love it over there, talkin' Hagar, the new tour, UP FOR BREAKFAST...:D

Hey, when Chelle posts again, are you going to put another smiley face, cheerin' her on? LOL. Such a dumbass.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
enough with the crying......

we know you like sammy fronted halen

Sad when Guwapo's only allies are the sheep he used to attack. Now that's hypocrisy. Let's see...FAB, CHELLE, POOP BOY...wow, what a team.

[tjvhou812]

quit the crying......

i told you i dont run w/anybody.......

i dont get it.....you had no problem busting every1 balls, now when you get your balls busted, you you cry like a little old lady......

but anyway, i'm sure you will see sammy in cabo

now get your ass in the pen

[Rikk]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
i dont get it.....you had no problem busting every1 balls, now when you get your balls busted, you you cry like a little old lady......

Who said I have a problem with busting balls, you little sheep? I love going back and forth with this bullshit. How is my busting balls any different? The only time I "cry", you idiot, is if someone tells me my mother should die, you stupid idiot.

So, how am I crying, dumbass? Truth is, I fucking HATE Sammy Hagar and would never go see that fucker, you loser (unlike yourself this summer). Our little friend GUWAPO is trying his hand at a little smokescreen, plus he's actually bitter that he isn't running the Pen and attacking sheep like yourself. It's very sad, actually.

Dude, I am way above crying about shit. There are maybe two or three people on my shit list and everything is cool. And if idiots attack me, I attack 'em back.

You are an idiot...but I don't consider it an attack. I actually think you're more of an idiot (but a fun idiot) because you joined this site attacking Dave and pushing Sammy. But that's part of the whole Pen thing. GUWAPO is out on a personal vendetta to protect his buddy, FAB. And I hope he enjoys his evening with her on Thursday. So if a few of us are throwing shit his way (and FAB's way), ain't your stomach strong enough to take it? You know they say goat's have the strongest stomachs. I thought sheep would too.

Anyway, with FAB it isn't crying. When we attack FAB, we're not busting balls. We seriously want her out because she is no good for this site. That's not me talking, that's everybody talking. That's the mods talking.

[guwapo_rocker]

Fab Fab Fab Fab Fab Fab Fab Fab........

Get over her Rikky....it's about you and the Japanese version of

Balance, and the Balance concert video, and how you think Black

and Blue rocks, and why you think When it's love is a good song

as well as Crossing Over, Shit I'd never even heard of that one.

[guwapo_rocker]

Yeah, I'm old, but you still live with your parents.

[Warham]

Guys, just admit that you've liked Hagar at one point, and we'll all get over this nonsense real quick. It's right there for the world to see. It's like John Kerry defending his Senate record. He can't, and you can't.

It's juvenile and petty.

[Switch84]

Re: Re: You pretty much covered it, Rikk!

Originally posted by diamondsgirl
LMAO! Remember in Silence of the Lambs when that sick fuck Jamie Gumb was looking in the mirror saying "would you fuck me? I'd fuck me". LOL. Thats Fab. :D

Holy SHIT!!! I KNEW her personality reminded me of another sick fuck in a movie! You ROCK, Roth Broad!!!!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Warham
Guys, just admit that you've liked Hagar at one point, and we'll all get over this nonsense real quick. It's right there for the world to see. It's like John Kerry defending his Senate record. He can't, and you can't.

It's juvenile and petty.

Sorry Warham. First off, I hope Kerry wins Tuesday.

Number 2, I've been a hardcore Roth fan my whole life and hate Sammy Hagar. Once again, friend, I had those albums when I was younger because I still followed the band. Many people at this site did the same. See, that's different from "liking Hagar" and it's definitely different from "hating Roth". Also, I stopped supporting the band quite a few years ago now. But more than anything, I've always wanted Dave back. When Sammy was kicked out (or quit) in '96, I ran up and down the stairs screaming, "Dave's back! Dave's back!" I even called people I didn't give a shit about it just to tell them.

So, this pro-Sam stuff is nothing more than bullshit. I've been hated by Chedheads my whole time in VH internet-land. And if you don't believe it, knock yourself out.

In the meantime, Guwapo jumps in with this bullshit every time FAB (the real Dave-hater) attacks me, or MAX or the mod room, or whichever.

I'm so fucking tired of this shit. Then again, it's really only a few annoying idiots that I'm tired of, so I guess it's no big deal.

[Rikk]

Re: Re: Re: You pretty much covered it, Rikk!

Originally posted by Switch84
Holy SHIT!!! I KNEW her personality reminded me of another sick fuck in a movie! You ROCK, Roth Broad!!!!

Switch, you IS the shit!!!!!! :D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
Yeah, I'm old, but you still live with your parents.

:D Sorry, I don't. But you're almost old enough to be my dad!

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Rikk
:D Sorry, I don't. But you're almost old enough to be my dad!

So are most CVH fans Rikky,

you know, the ones who have

actually seen them live.:D