Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Crew Member With Prop Firearm on Film Set,

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  • Nitro Express
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    • Aug 2004
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    #31
    Originally posted by FORD
    Probably cheaper than wrongful death lawsuits. Or possible criminal trials.
    One unfortunate accident out of how many movies that have used blank cartridges ever since movies were being made. It’s a drop in the ocean. Statistically using blanks has had a decent safety record. Idiots were running that movie shoot.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Nitro Express
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      #32
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      Latest is that there was a single live round in the gun.

      Maybe it was an elaborate murder but I have watched too many Columbo's too many times.
      Those old style six shooters don’t have a swing out cylinder. On a Smith & Wesson revolver you push a button and the whole cylinder swings out of the frame. You can see instantly how many rounds are loaded. On a Colt single six the cylinder is pinned into the frame. It doesn’t swing free. You have to open a loading door on the back of the frame, put the hammer on halfcock and rotate the cylinder and look at each chamber individually. It’s more easy to miss a loaded chamber.

      Why was there live ammo in a prop gun? Good question. They were filming on a ranch. I bet they were shooting live rounds for fun. Then they didn’t clear the gun. I’m sure Baldwin thought the gun was empty but he violated one huge safety rule. Never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to destroy. He’s looking at involuntary manslaughter charges. Not a joking matter and anyone who makes fun of the situation is an asshole.
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      • Nitro Express
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        #33
        Live rounds shouldn’t have been allowed on the set. Period. The guns we used were used with blanks only and after we were done with them, we cleaned them and locked them up. You can get cylinders that will chamber a short blank cartridge but not chamber a regular round.
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        • Seshmeister
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          • Oct 2003
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          #34
          Originally posted by Nitro Express

          Why was there live ammo in a prop gun? Good question. They were filming on a ranch. I bet they were shooting live rounds for fun. Then they didn’t clear the gun. I’m sure Baldwin thought the gun was empty but he violated one huge safety rule. Never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to destroy. He’s looking at involuntary manslaughter charges. Not a joking matter and anyone who makes fun of the situation is an asshole.
          Yeah could well have been they were shooting live rounds on day off, a massive fuck up by prop master probably.

          Still don't think the 'never point a gun' rule applies on a movie set where you would do that all the time. Most likely he was told to fire directly at the camera which would explain the DOP and director being hit.
          Last edited by Seshmeister; 10-23-2021, 11:11 PM.

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          • Seshmeister
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            • Oct 2003
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            #35
            Originally posted by Nitro Express
            Live rounds shouldn’t have been allowed on the set. Period. The guns we used were used with blanks only and after we were done with them, we cleaned them and locked them up. You can get cylinders that will chamber a short blank cartridge but not chamber a regular round.
            Changing the law to make that essential for movies sounds like a good idea although maybe the gun lobby will see that as another attack on freedom.

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            • Nitro Express
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              #36
              You could have a gunsmith modify any firearm to only chamber blanks. You just make the chamber shorter. Rounds with a bullet are longer and they won’t fit in a shorter chamber but a blank will. Doing that idiot proofs things. But blanks are still dangerous if fired directly at people at close range.
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              • Von Halen
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                • Dec 2003
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                #37
                Originally posted by FORD
                MAGAtts really hate Alec Baldwin because of his Cheeto character on SNL.
                I've hated Alec Baldwin forever. Well before his Libtard douchebaggery.

                Never saw one second of his portrayal of Trump on SNL, but understand he did an excellent version of him. Presidents have been targets of comedians and impressionists forever. Who cares about that?

                Still, a shame this poor woman died, while this piece of shit lives.

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                • Nickdfresh
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                  • Oct 2004
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  Yeah could well have been they were shooting live rounds on day off, a massive fuck up by prop master probably.

                  Still don't think the 'never point a gun' rule applies on a movie set where you would do that all the time. Most likely he was told to fire directly at the camera which would explain the DOP and director being hit.
                  Saw something about the "Armorer" on set being only 22 and pretty new at working major productions. Her father apparently was a long time Hollywood weapons Armorer and she was following in the family cottage industry, but admitted she might have been in over her head in a radio interview long prior to this incident or even the start of filming...

                  At a rehearsal on the film set Thursday at Bonanza Creek Ranch outside Santa Fe, the gun Baldwin used was one of three that a firearms specialist, or “armorer,” had set on a cart outside the building where a scene was being rehearsed, according to the court records.

                  Court records indicate that an assistant director, Dave Halls, grabbed a prop gun off a cart and handed it to Baldwin, indicating incorrectly that the weapon didn't carry live rounds by yelling “cold gun.”

                  When Baldwin pulled the trigger, he unwittingly killed Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza, who was standing behind her inside a wooden, chapel-like building.
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-24-2021, 11:44 AM.

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                  • Nitro Express
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                    #39
                    Looks like my assumption is correct. The pistol was being used for target practice with live rounds. Nobody cleared the gun. Baldwin didn’t check the gun. This is the classic scenario of assuming the gun is unloaded. Such subsumption has caused lots of accidents. No excuse for it.
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                    • Nitro Express
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                      #40
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Seshmeister
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                        • Oct 2003
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                        #41
                        Donald Trump Jr has begun selling merchandise that mocks Alec Baldwin, who fatally shot a cinematographer during an on-set incident last week.

                        Mr Trump has been sharing several Instagram photos and stories since Thursday’s tragic film set incident in New Mexico, where Mr Baldwin was filming Rust outside Santa Fe.

                        One of the latest stories showed a T-shirt with the words: “Guns don’t kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people”. The Instagram story had a link to Mr Trump’s online website, where the T-shirt is being sold for $27.99
                        Classy...

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                        • Von Halen
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                          • Dec 2003
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Classy...
                          I love it! I want one!

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                          • Kristy
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                            #43
                            You also want Trump's mushroom in your mouth.

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                            • FORD
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              #44
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • Nickdfresh
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                                • Oct 2004
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Von Halen
                                I love it! I want one!
                                You can suckle Trunp's dick for $1 too!

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