Remember Your Veterans on 11/11

[Ally_Kat]

And I don't know of one military wife, child, or mother that would want their soilder's slain body paraded for someone's opinion. That's adding salt to their wounds.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
And I don't know of one military wife, child, or mother that would want their soilder's slain body paraded for someone's opinion. That's adding salt to their wounds.

I agree.

But these are not opinions, these are dead Americans. Dead Americans that trusted the government that sent them looking for WMD!

Unfortunately, some people are in denial about this war. So they need to see it first hand. I don't want another human being to die for this war. I don't like to see ANYONE dying.

[Ally_Kat]

You agree, yet you parade them? Do you have permission from their families to use their images?

Remember, it was the soilder's choice to join and serve. It's their families on how, if at all, the life that was sacraficed is used politically.

The situation we are in now could have been prevented many times. Unforunately, the multiple strings beforehand weren't taken care of and this happened. Something like this was bound to happen because of it.

No one wants to see people die. Sometimes though, the fates have a way of making it inevitable.

[DEMON CUNT]

It is our duty as human beings to protect life. Not to destroy it.

Do you really think life is that cheap? To die for the lies of a bunch of Christian militants?

[FORD]

For the record, I would probably remove the more graphic pictures here if I was able to do so, but thanks to whiny little disruptive bitches like JCocksucker and DaveIsQueen, I no longer have all the abilities to properly regulate this forum.

And any time the webbies would like to rectify that situation... hint hint...

But I **do** believe it is wrong for the BCE to completely censor this war the way they have. Coffins should definitely be shown... funerals, definitely some battles and explosions.

War is ugly and that ugliness needs to be properly conveyed to the Busheep living in their redstate fairy tales. So where DO we draw that line?

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
It is our duty as human beings to protect life. Not to destroy it.

Do you really think life is that cheap? To die for the lies of a bunch of Christian militants?

It's a double edged sword, really. One can save others and in the mist of doing such, destroy a life or lives.

And at the point it is now, it may seem that this is being done for a "bunch of Christian militants", but at the time this was all new and relevant, it was a bunch of Islamic militants. If there was going to be a part two, it should have been done circa 1993, and not 2003. But then again, there shouldn't have been a part two and things should have been taken care of all at once. But, what happened happened and things play out now because of it.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
If there was going to be a part two, it should have been done circa 1993

The people who hit the WTC in 1993 were tried and convicted.

So were the two jackasses who attempted to cross into this country in late 1999 attempting to plan Millenial attacks.

That's more than Junior has accomplished, in terms of catching actual terrorists who have done something to this country

[diamond den™]

Originally posted by FORD
The people who hit the WTC in 1993 were tried and convicted.

So were the two jackasses who attempted to cross into this country in late 1999 attempting to plan Millenial attacks.

That's more than Junior has accomplished, in terms of catching actual terrorists who have done something to this country

FORD, You should move to Canada I think you'dd be happier there, honestly.

[Ally_Kat]

HAHA! I made sure hte hide feature was hit this time before I started typing. :D

Originally posted by FORD
For the record, I would probably remove the more graphic pictures here if I was able to do so, but thanks to whiny little disruptive bitches like JCocksucker and DaveIsQueen, I no longer have all the abilities to properly regulate this forum.

And any time the webbies would like to rectify that situation... hint hint...

But I **do** believe it is wrong for the BCE to completely censor this war the way they have. Coffins should definitely be shown... funerals, definitely some battles and explosions.

War is ugly and that ugliness needs to be properly conveyed to the Busheep living in their redstate fairy tales. So where DO we draw that line?

Ford, if you want to remove them, I will stand up and vocally (typingly? lol) support you.

Pictures such as the drapped coffins I am fine with. It is not using any specific person or death for personal reasons. And not only that, but it does show identity. Hell, even pictures where the face is pixeled might be cool. Not easily identifiable.

The thing that I'm iffy about with some of the pictures is that I know if it were my Michael or Bryan's dad whose face was being splashed for someone's view of the war, it would kill me. I can't speak for Bryan or his dad, but I know Michael personal stand. I know he wouldn't want to be used in anyone's demonstration against the war. He's told us this in case it would come to pass, and I stand strong that a soilder who has met his end serving the country should have this met. Ya know?

Funerals should deffy be shown as long as there is permission from the family. The country should mourn because not only did we lose a citizen, but we lost one who volunteered and fought for those who would or could not. But, first and foremost, the family lost their loved one and I couldn't see having a public funeral if they were not cool with it.

There comes a danger with that though. People could be desensitized(sp) to the point where they won't care about it -- kinda like how the beheadings have become for some. Not all, but some.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by FORD
The people who hit the WTC in 1993 were tried and convicted.

So were the two jackasses who attempted to cross into this country in late 1999 attempting to plan Millenial attacks.

That's more than Junior has accomplished, in terms of catching actual terrorists who have done something to this country

Well, that's all fine and dandy that we got the guys immediate to it, but who was behind it? Who went on to make sure there was an operation to go back and get the job done?

Who donated money the first time? Who gave all the help he could with passports and "friends" with apartments. What was the name of the country involved there?

If WWII were to happen today, should we only go after those immediate guys turning on the oven, or should we venture a little further and go after the big guys in charge?

[Nickdfresh]

<---I was hamstrung by that fucker Ken Starr! I wanted to send in U.S. Special Forces to wipe out Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but under constant investigation and pressure form the right, anything I did was called into question and any mistakes were under a microscope. My hands were tied! But I showed concern about al-Qaida throughout my Administration and held regular meetings on terrorism. You know how many meetings President Bush attended on his watch in the nine months before 9/11?---NONE! NOT ONE MEETING!

[Ally_Kat]

Ah, showed the concern so much by cutting the military.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Ah, showed the concern so much by cutting the military.

You mean all those valuable weapons systems which are useless in a terrorist low intensity conflict-Yes! How many al-Qaida members were killed by B-2 Stealth bombers? How many Taliban fighters were shot down by the F-22 Raptors? How many airliners full of terrorists were shot down by Bush's anti-ballistic missiles? We had all the resources we needed to stop al-Qaida! We had well funded special operations community, and we also spent more on defense than all of our potential adversaries combined! By the way, the Republican majority in congress signed off on those post-Cold War cuts.

[Dr. Love]

I changed them to links, FORD.

[Dr. Love]

Just out of curiosity, did you vets here serve in any combat areas, and if so, what did roles did you perform?