The Troops "Talk Back"

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
If I were in the Army, I'd be mighty pissed at Dummy Rummy and his pansy brigade of cavalier, arrogant Pentagon "Whiz Kids" too!

This just in, we can take Iraq with as few as 50,000 troops! Gee, I really like "transformation."

At this rate we'll be "transformed" right back to 1972!

You picked a good year for an example. You left out the exercise of the First Amendment in the '60's. You're right.

There will be no more demonstrations like that year after year. Fifty percent of the country then told the world "establishment" to back off.

Now they are going to move to #2 amendment to "take back" the government (i.e., not overthrow the Constitution).

It's clearly legal, and it's clearly where this country is going unless there are more, and more successful, Wolfowitz incidents that try to stop a civil war.

Like rust, the one world government never sleep, like you sleep and are asleep.


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
I've read this from more reputable sources. Wolfy was DEFINITELY fired upon while in Iraq. And he was LUCKY he escaped. The fact that only US troops could have done it is more disputable, but I believed that too (I can't recall the source). Although I thought the attack was with rockets as opposed to mortars. It was the side of the hotel.

Rockets, mortars, that's why I gave the source, U.S. Army Col. Donn de Gran-Pre.

Heads up.


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[Nickdfresh]

Killing an incompetent or ruthlessly careerist officer in Vietnam was called "fragging," that is, rolling a fragmentation Grenade under his bunk while sleeping, and sending him on a one way trip to the ceiling.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attac...&postid=324077

um -- don't look like Iraq to me. Looks more like Kosovo or Srebrenica

You're confused. It may be my fault. I ask that people use their background to fill in the blanks and get find the truth themselves instead of being spoon fed it.

It's supposed to REPRESENT America.

It's supposed to REPRESENT American soccer moms who voted Bush/Cheney ticket.

It's supposed to REPRESENT...you find the truth yourself.

The actual picture is from the town area of Nikolaev. It's title read: After bombing by fascist aviation near Nikolaev town, 1941.

It's supposed to REPRESENT you have as much control over your life as this young mother had.

It's supposed to REPRESENT fascist (i.e., corporate government) bombing of Fallujah, anywhere in Iraq, etc..

You try harder and it will REPRESENT more enlightenments to you as you grow, learn, and mature. I think you will mature, young woman. You put in an effort. You try. It will pay off for you big time someday. Maybe today a little for you.

It's suppose to REPRESENT a picture says a thousand words.

Why don't you join us?


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Killing an incompetent or ruthlessly careerist officer in Vietnam was called "fragging," that is, rolling a fragmentation Grenade under his bunk while sleeping, and sending him on a one way trip to the ceiling.

It's also well known that the Marines lost a lot of lieutenants in the Pacific in WW II. That should catch the ear of a lot of lieutenants over the next four years of Bush.


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[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Oi vay Phil! Forget the UN piloted "Black Helicopters" will ya.'

Have you heard of radiation? Chemicals are cheaper and almost no expense or technology to store for years. Black helicopters alone can't take total control of the world's resources and people.

Why nuke a U.S. city when it's easier to nuke the whole over extended miliarty over seas never to come home again...WW III can happen that fast and that way.

If a nuke that can't make it onto U.S. soil easily makes it and destroys and vaporizes an entire U.S. division of thousands of troops in the Middle East then you've got world war three.

It's more obvious each day that each day is a gift to stop this from happening. If people don't wake up now it's just over.


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[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Our own troops almost killed Wolfowitz in Iraq. They mortared his hotel. "Only U.S. troops had the intelligence to do that shelling." Col. Donn de Gran-Pre, retired, U.S. Army

Listen, he'll say it to you.
(CLICK HERE TO LISTEN)


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Phil. Alex Jones is causing your brain to melt! Stop listening.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Phil. Alex Jones is causing your brain to melt! Stop listening.

Nick. I'm not listening to Alex Jones! I'm listening to U.S. Col. Donn de Gran-Pre.


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[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Nick. I'm not listening to Alex Jones! I'm listening to U.S. Col. Donn de Gran-Pre.


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I have to admit he is interesting, but he's also selling something (three books in addition to DVD's) and quite frankly I take what he says with a grain of salt.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I have to admit he is interesting, but he's also selling something (three books in addition to DVD's) and quite frankly I take what he says with a grain of salt.

I'm not a blind following fool either. But there is a "truth" in anything this obvious. Shave off the Colonel's opinion and see what "truth" is left. There's a lot of truth in that interview. You know it too, don't you.

You should get those book and/or DVD's and do the same thing. Seek the truth. Buy the things used and don't line his pockets. Ok.

Take action or it's over.


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[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
I'm not a blind following fool either. But there is a "truth" in anything this obvious. Shave off the Colonel's opinion and see what "truth" is left. There's a lot of truth in that interview. You know it too, don't you.


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Some truth about Wolfoshitz. But his "missile fired from a Global Hawk (unmanned recon aircraft) hit the Pentagon" statement is rubbish.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I have to admit he is interesting, but he's also selling something (three books in addition to DVD's) and quite frankly I take what he says with a grain of salt.

You can accuse the news you get from CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, TIME magazine, etc., of the same thing and they're all lining a lot more pockets selling you their views.


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[Big Train]

THis fucking thread makes my head hurt. At least two people are having a discussion...

I think the guy has some valid points, but so does Rummy. You got to use what you got to get what you want. Are the guys in Fallujah bellyaching cause they have to stand behind a brick wall with a machine gun vs. an american tank? That they only have 5 RPG's to fight the Americans with?

I understand and sympathize with the guy's concern certainly, but a job still has to be done.

As for your unjust war comments, I'll just let those comments stand....my positions have been argued endlessly it seems.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Big Train
THis fucking thread makes my head hurt. At least two people are having a discussion...

I think the guy has some valid points, but so does Rummy. You got to use what you got to get what you want. Are the guys in Fallujah bellyaching cause they have to stand behind a brick wall with a machine gun vs. an american tank? That they only have 5 RPG's to fight the Americans with?

I understand and sympathize with the guy's concern certainly, but a job still has to be done.

As for your unjust war comments, I'll just let those comments stand....my positions have been argued endlessly it seems.

Big Train, this is why you are not on my Ignore. You have things to add. We are all connected.

Grate points.


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[Big Train]

Phil , I LIKE being on your ignore.

The things like this I feel are valid, but it is a military issue. People forget this is a fucking WAR. Everything isn't "perfect and ready to go" all the time, but you make due. It doesn't bother me that the guy said something-in any orginazation, if you got something to say, say it. But say it well and be active, don't just bitch about it, which is what I respect here.

Bottom line, still have to go do a job. That isn't me "Being a hard ass from the safety of America" that is just the truth. I feel for the guy and feel we need to do everything to help him, but it still has to be done.

Call me crazy, but I actually think we are making progress towards our goals.