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  • Big Train
    Full Member Status

    • Apr 2004
    • 4013

    Plant!!!!

    Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Edward Lee Pitts is embedded with the 278th Regimental Combat Team, now in Kuwait preparing to enter Iraq, and is filing articles for his newspaper. Pitts claims in a purported email that he coached soldiers to ask Defense Secretary Rumsfeld questions!

    From: EDWARD LEE PITTS, MILITARY AFFAIRS
    Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:44 PM
    To: Staffers

    Subject: RE: Way to go

    I just had one of my best days as a journalist today. As luck would have it, our journey North was delayed just long enough see I could attend a visit today here by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. I was told yesterday that only soldiers could ask questions so I brought two of them along with me as my escorts. Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have. While waiting for the VIP, I went and found the Sgt. in charge of the microphone for the question and answer session and made sure he knew to get my guys out of the crowd.

    So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question. Then Rumsfeld answered something about it being "not a lack of desire or money but a logistics/physics problem." He said he recently saw about 8 of the special up-armored Humvees guarding Washington, DC, and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here. Then he asked a three star general standing behind him, the commander of all ground forces here, to also answer the question. The general said it was a problem he is working on.

    The great part was that after the event was over the throng of national media following Rumsfeld- The New York Times, AP, all the major networks -- swarmed to the two soldiers I brought from the unit I am embedded with. Out of the 1,000 or so troops at the event there were only a handful of guys from my unit b/c the rest were too busy prepping for our trip north. The national media asked if they were the guys with the armor problem and then stuck cameras in their faces. The NY Times reporter asked me to email him the stories I had already done on it, but I said he could search for them himself on the Internet and he better not steal any of my lines. I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I foud out I would be on an unarmored truck- and my paper published two stories on it. But it felt good to hand it off to the national press. I believe lives are at stake with so many soldiers going across the border riding with scrap metal as protection. It may be to late for the unit I am with, but hopefully not for those who come after.

    The press officer in charge of my regiment, the 278th, came up to me afterwords and asked if my story would be positive. I replied that I would write the truth. Then I pointed at the horde of national media pointing cameras and mics at the 278th guys and said he had bigger problems on his hands than the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This is what this job is all about - people need to know. The solider who asked the question said he felt good b/c he took his complaints to the top. When he got back to his unit most of the guys patted him on the back but a few of the officers were upset b/c they thought it would make them look bad. From what I understand this is all over the news back home.

    Thanks,

    Lee

    EDWARD LEE PITTS FILED STORY ABOUT THE TROOPS BEFORE THE POW-WOW WITH RUMSFELD

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  • ODShowtime
    ROCKSTAR

    • Jun 2004
    • 5812

    #2
    So? Rumsfeld gets called on his bullshit? So what? People are dying because of it.

    If you want to bitch, bitch about how the soldiers complaining about a lack of armor in this story haven't even been to Iraq yet. That may be bitch-worthy.
    gnaw on it

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    • Big Train
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2004
      • 4013

      #3
      I'm just bitching cause people were denying it was a plant situation.

      Settle down, I am well aware of the shortage problems they are experiencing and I agree something needs to be done. Obviously, they need to get caught up after all the cuts in recent years.

      Sorry to have offended the "bitch worthy" meter..

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      • ODShowtime
        ROCKSTAR

        • Jun 2004
        • 5812

        #4
        Originally posted by Big Train
        Settle down
        ?
        gnaw on it

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        • DEMON CUNT
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Nov 2004
          • 3242

          #5
          Originally posted by ODShowtime
          So? Rumsfeld gets called on his bullshit? So what? People are dying because of it.

          If you want to bitch, bitch about how the soldiers complaining about a lack of armor in this story haven't even been to Iraq yet. That may be bitch-worthy.
          These ignorant neo cons are told exactly what to bitch about...

          Like Dan Rather instead of Bush's "service."

          Like the Swift Boat Douchebags instead of Bush going AWOL.

          Like Gay Marriage instead of the economy.

          Like Saddam instead of Osama.
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          • Big Train
            Full Member Status

            • Apr 2004
            • 4013

            #6
            Hey Cunt,

            Speaking of ignorant bitches, Cunt, can you send me that memo?

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #7
              Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
              These ignorant neo cons are told exactly what to bitch about...

              Like Dan Rather instead of Bush's "service."

              Like the Swift Boat Douchebags instead of Bush going AWOL.

              Like Gay Marriage instead of the economy.

              Like Saddam instead of Osama.
              I think Rove analyzes every opponent and situation. Then they forge a reality to counter each facet of that opponent/situation. It's like a checklist. You match up something for each strength an opponent has. I mean look at the Dan Rather thing. Masterful manipulation.

              I think many people could do his job if he would just show the secrets of how he worked. It's kinda like when Ed was the only guitarist really doing tapping before people figured out what the hell he was doing and realized that, while difficult, it certainly isn't impossible.
              gnaw on it

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              • blueturk
                Veteran
                • Jul 2004
                • 1883

                #8
                It's a fucking shame that it took a planted question for Dubya to even acknowledge the problem,even though troops have been complaining about it virtually since the war began.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59610

                  #9
                  What does this thread have to do with Plant anyways?



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                  • DEMON CUNT
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 3242

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ODShowtime
                    I think Rove analyzes every opponent and situation. Then they forge a reality to counter each facet of that opponent/situation. It's like a checklist. You match up something for each strength an opponent has. I mean look at the Dan Rather thing. Masterful manipulation.

                    I think many people could do his job if he would just show the secrets of how he worked.
                    But they don't care. They don't want this sort of "conspiracy" talk. They want to remain complacent and wait for their beliefs and opinions to be spoon fed to them like little spiritual babies.

                    Give 'em a flag decal and a slogan and they think they are getting political.

                    Here's a pic of Warham. Isn't he just darling? And what an American!
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                    • Big Train
                      Full Member Status

                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4013

                      #11
                      That's exactly what we want oh wise one. Tell us what to think. I just want to love America and let leaders tell me what to do.

                      Your generalizations are funny and way off Cunt. How are we "waiting for our opinions to be spoonfed"? You have nothing just admit it.

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                      • John Ashcroft
                        Veteran
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2127

                        #12
                        Uh....

                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these types of issues always prevalent in wartime???

                        Logistics are always a problem. Always a significant problem. But they seem to be as insignificant a problem in this war as any in history (and that's not saying problems don't exist you silly little freaks, so spare me the "auto-reply"). And if you wan't to compare any previous war to this one, feel free. I'm all ears.

                        Let's talk logistics, shall we?

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                        • DEMON CUNT
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 3242

                          #13
                          Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                          Uh....

                          Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these types of issues always prevalent in wartime???

                          Logistics are always a problem. Always a significant problem. But they seem to be as insignificant a problem in this war as any in history (and that's not saying problems don't exist you silly little freaks, so spare me the "auto-reply"). And if you wan't to compare any previous war to this one, feel free. I'm all ears.

                          Let's talk logistics, shall we?
                          Can you be more specific? Are you talking about Rove's Propaganda? Or guys wanting to marry guys?

                          So what do you think of Hilary Clinton?
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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49565

                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Ashcroft
                            Uh....

                            Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these types of issues always prevalent in wartime???

                            Logistics are always a problem. Always a significant problem. But they seem to be as insignificant a problem in this war as any in history (and that's not saying problems don't exist you silly little freaks, so spare me the "auto-reply"). And if you wan't to compare any previous war to this one, feel free. I'm all ears.

                            Let's talk logistics, shall we?
                            Well, when you discount the advice of your senior commanders, fail to foresee likely events, yes logistics can be quite a problem! Than Rummy for that!

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                            • ODShowtime
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Jun 2004
                              • 5812

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ODShowtime
                              I think Rove analyzes every opponent and situation. Then they forge a reality to counter each facet of that opponent/situation. It's like a checklist. You match up something for each strength an opponent has. I mean look at the Dan Rather thing. Masterful manipulation.
                              ...

                              Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
                              But they don't care. They don't want this sort of "conspiracy" talk.
                              This isn't a conspiracy, it happens in broad daylight in full view of the world. It's discussed on national TV on the evening news.
                              gnaw on it

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