San Francisco Supervisors Propose Gun Ban

[Mezro]

Originally posted by TLR
I'm going to use the old line: It's not the guns that kill people. It's the people who kill people. Period. Get rid of the assholes, not the guns...

I don't think a gun ban is the answer but I'm pretty sure this will pass.

Mezro...I don't own a gun (never will) but responsible adults (without a history of mental illness or a criminal record) should always have the right to bear arms...

[Big Train]

HA! HA! This is 100% pure Big Train bullshit. What about the Patriot Act? Who's responsible for that?

The Constitution is for everyone, not just gun owners. [/B][/QUOTE]

Pure Cunt bullshit right there. The point I'm trying to make (and your trying to ignore) is that the Constitution is not just being "shit on" by conservatives, liberals are all over it too. Liberals would love to legislate their thought patterns as well. Take a walk around Cambridge, MA, where the town has to PAY for stupid signs that say "Hate Free Zone".

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Big Train
Pure Cunt bullshit right there. The point I'm trying to make (and your trying to ignore) is that the Constitution is not just being "shit on" by conservatives, liberals are all over it too. Liberals would love to legislate their thought patterns as well. Take a walk around Cambridge, MA, where the town has to PAY for stupid signs that say "Hate Free Zone".

I agree. Waste is rampant. However, the patriot act is much more of a threat to our freedom than a few (probably expensive) signs.

The signs are a local issue. The Patriot Act applies to all of us.

[Big Train]

You don't think removing the 2nd amendment affects us all?

I don't own guns, don't even care for them, I just think it is odd that this is being allowed to proceed. Probably because they have some much good fortune last year with gay marriage, why not push the liberal agenda further, at least on a local level?

And we are agreed about the waste.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Big Train
And we are agreed about the waste.

boy, it must have been tough to reach that concensus

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Big Train
You don't think removing the 2nd amendment affects us all?

I don't own guns, don't even care for them, I just think it is odd that this is being allowed to proceed. Probably because they have some much good fortune last year with gay marriage, why not push the liberal agenda further, at least on a local level?

And we are agreed about the waste.

It's not really about removing the 2nd. It's about the interpretation of the word "militia"

I don't think happiness and safety are part of some ilberal agenda. It's really what we all want.

One day we'll all realize that it is not right vs. left or red vs. blue; it's the "top 1%" vs. "bottom 98%."

[aesop]

Why do think SFians would be happier without guns? It sure hasn't done shit for the crime rate in DC...

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by aesop
Why do think SFians would be happier without guns? It sure hasn't done shit for the crime rate in DC...

Got proof?

[FORD]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
"We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
-- Bill Clinton, March 1, 1993, USA Today

"There oughta be limits to Freedom" -- George W. Bush


"Things would be a lot easier if this was a Dictatorship -- so long as I'm the Dictator" -- GWB (3x he's said gone on record saying this)


"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to focus on" -- GWB

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to focus on" -- GWB

Wow, that's a pretty wise statement from the old fuckface. He obviously stuck to that strategy in '04.

Ford, can you supply more context for that one?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by aesop
Why do think SFians would be happier without guns? It sure hasn't done shit for the crime rate in DC...

It's kind of tough to judge the failure of gun control in D.C. when they live next to a state, Virginia, where the criteria for buying the latest and greatest "semi-automatic" versions of military small arms is:

A.) Have pulse

B.) I swear I am over the age of 12, really mister!

C.) I really, really promise not to wipe out my entire high school class with this Chinese made AK-47

[Big Train]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
It's not really about removing the 2nd. It's about the interpretation of the word "militia"

I don't think happiness and safety are part of some ilberal agenda. It's really what we all want.

[/B]

The bottom line is that's how it stands..until it is removed from the constitution, interpretating it is not their job.

You critize the Patriot Act while condoning and approving this...hypocrisy.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by aesop
SFians

San Franciscans.

Mezro...SFians is that Burning Man world from The Matrix...

[aesop]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It's kind of tough to judge the failure of gun control in D.C. when they live next to a state, Virginia, where the criteria for buying the latest and greatest "semi-automatic" versions of military small arms is:

A.) Have pulse

B.) I swear I am over the age of 12, really mister!

C.) I really, really promise not to wipe out my entire high school class with this Chinese made AK-47

That's true,however, most crimes are comitted by stolen handguns, not registered semi-auto versions of military-issue. Good point though about the proximity to Virginia. And Philly, and Jersey...

[Nickdfresh]

How about insuring that we restrict gun access to the sane, and upstanding citizens? Something the NRA seems to fight tooth and nail.

How about insuring that we have a criteria for buying firearms that is at least as restrictive than the criteria for getting a driver's licence?