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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

    Army Reserve chief raises concern about 'broken force'
    Urges wider call-up to meet commitments


    Thursday, January 6, 2005 Posted: 4:18 AM EST (0918 GMT)

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Pentagon's reliance on volunteers from the Army Reserve for duty in Iraq and Afghanistan risks creating a "broken force," the reserve force's commander warned his superiors in a December memo, and he urged a wider call-up of reservists to active duty.

    In his memo, Lt. Gen. James Helmly stated that the Army Reserve is no longer able to meet its commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan, nor can it "reset and regenerate" units for future missions.

    Reserve commanders spend too much time trying to accommodate troops who don't want to serve, leaving the force unable to meet its mission requirements, Helmly concluded -- the result of policies that were designed for peacetime, "as opposed to a mobilized force in wartime."

    "While some have expressed surprise and indignation at being mobilized for this war, most have not," Helmly wrote in a Dec. 20 memorandum to Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army's chief of staff. "They have understood it to be inherent in their volunteer contract for service."

    In addition, offering a $1,000 monthly bonus to volunteers for active duty risks creating a "mercenary" culture in its ranks, he wrote.

    About a fifth of the Army's 200,000 reservists are currently on active duty. About 30,000 of those are in Iraq, where the service relies heavily on reservists for support, military police and civil affairs specialists.

    "Contrary to a perceived intention of caring for troops, the insistence on even more restrictive policies and practices governing mobilization, manpower management and the insistence on incentivizing 'volunteers' through the use of money threatens to unhinge an already precariously balanced situation in which we are losing as many soldiers through no use as we are through the fear of overuse," he wrote.

    Helmly called the memo "a clear, distinctive signal of deepening concern" about the status of his force. It was not his first warning: In November, he told the House Armed Services Committee that the Army Reserve is falling behind its recruiting goals for the year.

    In December, the Army Reserve announced it would boost enlistment bonuses to $10,000 for first-time recruits and to $15,000 for veterans who sign up for six years. The National Guard -- also heavily mobilized for the war in Iraq -- also raised its recruiting bonuses after seeing a decline in recruiting since October.

    Helmly recommended extending the mandatory retirement dates for reserve officers, rather than having to recall and retrain retired officers; and making more use of retirees who have volunteered to return to duty. Current policies have "hamstrung" the reserve as it tries to manage its force, he wrote.

    CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent Jamie McIntyre contributed to this report.

    cnn
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #2
    Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

    Originally posted by Nickdfresh

    From CNN: In his memo, Lt. Gen. James Helmly stated...Reserve commanders spend too much time trying to accommodate troops who don't want to serve, leaving the force unable to meet its mission requirements,...(the UASR and USNG) also raised its recruiting bonuses after seeing a decline in recruiting since October.
    cnn

    This guy sounds either like he is full of shit, or that he wants a means to get more soldiers. He offers no long term solution to manpower shortages and scoffs at incentives and voluteerism. Maybe Reserve soldiers aren't reenlisting because they don't want to travel to a bullshit oil war, and would rather do other things LIKE THEIR REAL JOBS OR FINISHING SCHOOL!

    CAN YOU SAY DRAFT?!

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    • DrMaddVibe
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6686

      #3
      No, but you just did!
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      • ODShowtime
        ROCKSTAR

        • Jun 2004
        • 5812

        #4
        Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Army Reserve chief raises concern about 'broken force'
        Urges wider call-up to meet commitments


        In December, the Army Reserve announced it would boost enlistment bonuses to $10,000 for first-time recruits and to $15,000 for veterans who sign up for six years. The National Guard -- also heavily mobilized for the war in Iraq -- also raised its recruiting bonuses after seeing a decline in recruiting since October.
        This is clearly a sign of desperation. And everyone in the world sees it. I'm sure North Korea and Iran both have intelligence operatives who's sole job is to read our news. They will be planning accordingly.

        So what to do? Embrace in a death grapple with the axis of evil?

        You know, the Reserves were simply not meant for this. When you use a screwdriver to drive in nails, it's gonna break sooner or later. And I don't have the confidence in our Commander in Chief that he understands this.
        gnaw on it

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #5
          Re: Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

          Originally posted by ODShowtime
          And I don't have the confidence in our Commander in Chief that he understands this.
          I"m sure he'll lose sleep over night over this.
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59650

            #6
            As if that moron had anything to do with the decisions anyway.
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #7
              Re: Re: Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              I"m sure he'll lose sleep over night over this.
              Damn it, I was hoping he'd read all my posts and change his mind!


              EDIT:

              BBB, any useful comments about what I said? Do you like the state of the Reserves today? You think everything's peachy when they just tripled the enlistment bonus?

              Maybe you know about the shortage of nurses in this country. Look at the sigining bonuses they get. Ask Elvis. It's a crisis. This is the same thing jerky.
              Last edited by ODShowtime; 01-06-2005, 10:22 AM.
              gnaw on it

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              • Phil theStalker
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 3843

                #8
                BBB obviously has a very shallow view of the world and just enjoys chiming in with his shallow gut guy feelings waving his Made In China U.S.A. flag. Put him on mental ignore on move on. He may or may not catch on or catch up. Help your brother, but don't let him waste your time...it's later than he thinks.


                Add to Ignore list

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

                  Originally posted by ODShowtime

                  BBB, any useful comments about what I said?
                  Nope. I have no use for you.
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Phil theStalker
                    BBB obviously has a very shallow view of the world and just enjoys chiming in with his shallow gut guy feelings waving his Made In China U.S.A. flag. Put him on mental ignore on move on. He may or may not catch on or catch up. Help your brother, but don't let him waste your time...it's later than he thinks.



                    Thanks H.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • ODShowtime
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Jun 2004
                      • 5812

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      Nope. I have no use for you.
                      I interpret this to mean you know I'm right and have nothing useful to add.

                      Thanks for contributing to the discussion!
                      gnaw on it

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        #12
                        Re: Re: Re: U.S. Army Reserves 'Broken"

                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        I"m sure he'll lose sleep over night over this.
                        So am I.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #13
                          Note to 'Conservatives' on the board, the U.S. Army Reserves (USAR) were redesigned in the early 70's as a STOP GAP after a Soviet invasion of Europe until we could train an Army from Selective Service call-ups.

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                          • ODShowtime
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Jun 2004
                            • 5812

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            Note to 'Conservatives' on the board, the U.S. Army Reserves (USAR) were redesigned in the early 70's as a STOP GAP after a Soviet invasion of Europe until we could train an Army from Selective Service call-ups.
                            you need to re-address this to make it more specific

                            "Note to gw&friends:"
                            gnaw on it

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                            • DEMON CUNT
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 3242

                              #15
                              Nick & OD- Quit confusing BigBland with reality. He's still licking his wounds and needs some time to recover from the abolute beating he has taken lately. Poor little bitch!

                              You can tell when he's out of juice. His use of the eye roll smiley goes up and his responces get shorter. Then on special occasions he'll mention Bill or Hilary.
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