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Perhaps. But apes have show sophisticated emotions and the ability to communicate on a limited, but conscious, level.Originally posted by Cathedral
Man did this thread take a dive, lol.
Let's all be adults and avoid falling into a personal attack mode.
And i wasn't trying to say that we are like dolphins because of our water content.
I was referring to the intellect, thought process, feelings, etc.
Maybe a stretch, but not by much, I am sure we are related to chimpanzees by actually over 90% genetically speaking.As for the DNA, I disagree with the 97% factor with apes. that number is stretching it a bit.
But as Knucklehead pointed out along with me, every living thing on this earth is relative in one way or another since we all come from the same dust.
Science isn't about disproving the existence of a God, merely providing a rational explanation for the universe. Though many scientists are atheists, many are also spiritual if not religious. Scientists have proven much! How can you say they haven't?
But this arguent has gone on longer than i have been alive and still there is no conclusive evidence that proves scientists right, or discounts the existance of God.
I see a joke there, but I'll refrain.So this conversation can go on and on and we'll never get anywhere but a flame war.
I'm just glad i have a set of thumbs, lol.
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Actually, humans share more then 98.5 %, about 99.4 % in fact, DNA with chimpanzees
Believe it or not, Chimpanzees are closer to us then Gorillas. In fact, in a recent study, it was found out that (genetically speaking) we belong to the same genus, Homo, as them. Currently however, they belong to the genus Pan.
[b]“ As for the DNA, I disagree with the 97% factor with apes. that number is stretching it a bit.
But as Knucklehead pointed out along with me, every living thing on this earth is relative in one way or another since we all come from the same dust. ”
Maybe a stretch, but not by much, I am sure we are related to chimpanzees by actually over 90% genetically speaking.[b/]
Actually, we share a bit more then 97% DNA with the gorillas. Humans and Gorillas have only a bit more then 2% DNA difference.
In fact, Our DNA only differs from most monkeys within 8%
THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE CAME FROM CHIMPANZEES.
Rather, we shared a common ancestor. As I explained in a previous post.Comment
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But this arguent has gone on longer than i have been alive and still there is no conclusive evidence that proves scientists right, or discounts the existance of God. ”
By all means, you might wanna consider to stop using a PC, Light Bulbs, TVs, etc etc etc for they would not have been possible without science.
The difference between science and religion, is that scientific theories can be disproved, and fixed.
You can't learn and change things with religion, unless some important religious figure decides to change things because of how he feels.
Therefore, by learning new things and disproving old ideas, science has advanced to a considerable level. It has basically come to the point that to say that evolution never happened, is just as bad as saying that lightbulbs are not powered by electricity, and that humans don't need oxygen to breathe. I mean, we have seen it in action, have material evidence, done DNA testing etc etc etc.
It's just not the same as say, the big bang theory, which is widely accepted, but has a very big possibility of it being false. In fact, I personally have a suspicion that there will be a change in the theory in 10-20 years.Comment
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Yep, and that ancestors name is God, lol.
I bet you knew that was coming, if not i'm sorry for the shock.
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Yes, Cathedral, that may be very possible, but to say so would mean that Primordial Ooze filled with Amino Acids is God lol.
That would STILL not disprove the theory of evolution at all though now would it?Comment
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Perhaps a more rational explanation would be that a supreme being manufactured the universe in a way that would set off like a giant chain reaction, so all those proteins and such would form?Comment
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The theory cannot be proven...Comment
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Yes, but that still does not support a species evolving...Originally posted by Knucklebones
Perhaps a more rational explanation would be that a supreme being manufactured the universe in a way that would set off like a giant chain reaction, so all those proteins and such would form?
BTW, this is the first post you made today that actually made sense...
Congradulations....Comment
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Don't get me wrong, I never said science was bad. But there are those who's mission is to prove there is no God.Originally posted by Knucklebones
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But this arguent has gone on longer than i have been alive and still there is no conclusive evidence that proves scientists right, or discounts the existance of God. ”
By all means, you might wanna consider to stop using a PC, Light Bulbs, TVs, etc etc etc for they would not have been possible without science.
The difference between science and religion, is that scientific theories can be disproved, and fixed.
You can't learn and change things with religion, unless some important religious figure decides to change things because of how he feels.
Therefore, by learning new things and disproving old ideas, science has advanced to a considerable level. It has basically come to the point that to say that evolution never happened, is just as bad as saying that lightbulbs are not powered by electricity, and that humans don't need oxygen to breathe. I mean, we have seen it in action, have material evidence, done DNA testing etc etc etc.
It's just not the same as say, the big bang theory, which is widely accepted, but has a very big possibility of it being false. In fact, I personally have a suspicion that there will be a change in the theory in 10-20 years.
Like Nick said, Scientists come from many walks of life and from different ideologies so there motivations differ from person to person.
This planet provides everything we need to survive and science has in many ways enhanced our lives. I just think there is a point where (and i'm gonna sound like a movie line here) we should understand that just because we can do some things doesn't mean we should.
The snowball earth theory was just recently proven to be a fact, so we learn something new everyday and we have no clue what the future holds for us.
I also agree with the posts about Chimps. but if we were to test everything on earth we would find that everything is relative, yadda yadda yadda, back to the ancestor thing, lol.Comment
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You are right, but i'm not trying to disprove evolution. I merely question the definition of it.Originally posted by Knucklebones
Yes, Cathedral, that may be very possible, but to say so would mean that Primordial Ooze filled with Amino Acids is God lol.
That would STILL not disprove the theory of evolution at all though now would it?Comment
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I think you would find that if you actually research evolution in scientist's definition, you will find that you will agree with it.
Most people who disagree with evolution think that evolution is what some desperate religious zealots have been touting as "evolution".
As I can see, for so far, I have yet to see someone who discredits evolution, know what it really is. (As how in you guys thought that new species are formed in 60,000 years etc)Comment
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You have yet to show me a "new species"...Comment
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CongraTulations on being a fucktard.Originally posted by ELVIS
Yes, but that still does not support a species evolving...
BTW, this is the first post you made today that actually made sense...
Congradulations....
Obviously to you, things only make sense if the word GOD is inserted in the same sentence.
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2 + 2 = 4 DOES NOT COMPUTE! WTF! THIS NO MAKE SENSE!
Elvis' Brain - 2+2+God=246514 Ahhh yes, this makes perfect sense.Comment
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Originally posted by ELVIS
You have yet to show me a "new species"...
Apparently, we have a new scientific breakthrough here!
This can only mean 3 things!
1. Organisms are able to de-evolve, forming new species, which Elvis is a member of.
2. A donkey has been born so severely mutated, that he can actually use a PC! However, he is incapable of rational thought and basically, there is no point in him using a PC.
3. Elvis is a dumbass.
I'll take number 3, as it seems to be the most realistic theory.Comment
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