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  • Vivian Campbell
    Head Fluffer
    • Oct 2004
    • 356

    'An American who can't say no' by Pat Buchanan

    Posted: January 24, 2005
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    © 2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc.


    Historians celebrate his predecessor Truman and his successor JFK as near-great. Yet, Eisenhower is ignored. A positive-passive president, he is called, at best an average president.

    Yet, what did Ike accomplish? He took office in 1953 and in six months ended the no-win war in Korea. With a million illegal aliens here, he ordered them home in "Operation Wetback." They went.

    He built up U.S. armed forces to where we were invincible. When the Hungarian Revolution erupted, Ike refused to send troops beyond the bridge at Andau. America stayed out, and the revolution was snuffed out by Soviet tanks. But there was no war between America and the Soviet Union.

    When the British, French and Israelis launched an invasion to retake Suez from Nasser, who had nationalized it, Ike ordered the Brits and French out, threatened to sink the pound if Prime Minister Eden balked, told Israel's David Ben-Gurion to get out of Sinai or face the wrath of the man who had commanded D-Day. All obeyed.

    Ike gave us peace and prosperity, balanced the budget, and went off to play golf at the all-men's Burning Tree Country Club, where this writer was a summer caddy. Once, as I was walking out the long driveway at Burning Tree to walk to River Road, to hitch-hike back to D.C., the president's limo approached.

    I put out my thumb, and got Ike's famous smile and a wave as he passed by. Ike was a leader who could say no. He was what we needed after the disastrous tenure of Harry Truman, who had left office with an approval rate of 23 percent.

    Today, America is a country that cannot say no. The backslapping of Republicans notwithstanding, we do not have a true or tough conservative in the Oval Office. There is no conservative party in Washington. And we shall pay a historic price for it.

    Under President Bush, the U.S. government collects 16 percent of the GDP in taxes and spends 20 percent. We have a deficit of close to 4 percent of the economy.

    Yet, as the Washington Post's Robert Samuelson writes, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid – which already consume 7 percent of GDP – will rise to 13 percent in 2030, i.e., the federal take will rise to 26 or 27 percent of our economy.

    Thus, the problem. If the feds are taking in 16 to 17 percent of GDP, but spending 26 to 27 percent of GDP, how do we close the gap? Do we raise taxes 10 percent of GDP, or raise the deficit to 10 percent of GDP?

    As Samuelson writes, just to close the coming gap in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid would require a $700-billion-a-year tax hike. That would sink the economy.

    Now, consider our foreign debt, the largest in history.

    In 2004, the U.S. trade deficit will come in near $600 billion. In November, at $60 billion, it was running at $720 billion a year, with the merchandise trade deficit approaching $800 billion.

    We are borrowing 6 percent to 7 percent of GDP abroad to finance our purchases abroad. Japan and China are lending us the hundreds of billions we need each year to cover our purchases of foreign goods. Why are our lenders so generous? Because it enables them to siphon our manufacturing base out of America, into Asia.

    By putting us into bottomless debt and hooking us on their products, they are making us a dependent nation – dependent on them.

    Why do we Americans not use our own savings, if we feel we must buy beyond our income? Because the average American saves nothing, about 1 percent of what he earns. Never before have our people been so deeply in family debt, on credit cards, mortgages and car loans.

    From every standpoint, America is a nation over-extended, living beyond its means, mortgaging its future for the present.

    Then, consider our military commitments. President Bush is expected to ask Congress for $100 billion in supplemental funds to pay for the Iraq and Afghan wars. As we do not have the money, we shall have to borrow to fight these wars.

    Beyond the fiscal cost, there is America's strategic deficit. With 150,000 troops in Iraq, 40 percent of them Guard and Reserve, with 9,000 in Afghanistan, our 500,000-man Army is stretched to the limit. Our Navy is falling below one-half the 600 ships of Ronald Reagan's Navy.

    Yet, the Bush Doctrine calls for us to fight Iran and North Korea to keep them from going nuclear. The neocons want Syria attacked. Beltway elites are raising their fists at Russia and demanding Ukraine be brought into NATO. Meanwhile, China appears to be building its forces for the ultimate showdown with Taiwan.

    America is a nation over-committed, over-extended in every way. And the IOUs are coming due.
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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #2
    I never thought I'd see the day that Pat Buchanan would be the Voice of Reason on the right.

    He rocks the Mclughlin Group too

    what a world
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #3
      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
      I never thought I'd see the day that Pat Buchanan would be the Voice of Reason on the right.

      He rocks the Mclughlin Group too

      what a world
      No wonder why all those old people and minorities voted for him in Florida in 2000.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59643

        #4
        Eisenhower was the first BCE President. Prescott Bush himself paired the ex-General with Richard Nixon, who had previously been a lawyer helping Grandpa Bush's Nazi friends immigrate into this country where they assumed positions in intelligence agencies and the GOP itself.

        Though Ike was "made" by the BCE, he saw their agenda for what it was and tried to distance himself from it, while Nixon embraced it like the whore he was and would continue to be. In his last speech to the American people, Ike warned us about what he called "the military industrial complex" and how they would destroy this country if not stopped.

        We should have listened to him
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59643

          #5


          "Farewell Address" (January 17, 1961)

          My fellow Americans:

          Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

          This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.

          Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all.

          Our people expect their President and the Congress to find essential agreement on issues of great moment, the wise resolution of which will better shape the future of the Nation.

          My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed me to West Point, have since ranged to the intimate during the war and immediate post-war period, and, finally, to the mutually interdependent during these past eight years.

          In this final relationship, the Congress and the Administration have, on most vital issues, cooperated well, to serve the national good rather than mere partisanship, and so have assured that the business of the Nation should go forward. So, my official relationship with the Congress ends in a feeling, on my part, of gratitude that we have been able to do so much together.

          We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.

          Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.

          Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology--global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle--with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment.

          Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research--these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.

          But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs-balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage--balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.

          The record of many decades stands as proof that our people and their government have, in the main, understood these truths and have responded to them well, in the face of stress and threat. But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. I mention two only.

          A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

          Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

          Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

          This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual--is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

          In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

          We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.


          Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

          In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

          Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

          The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present--and is gravely to be regarded.

          Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

          It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system--ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

          Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we--you and I, and our government-must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

          Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be, instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

          Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield.

          Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war--as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years--I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.

          Happily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But, so much remains to be done. As a private citizen, I shall never cease to do what little I can to help the world advance along that road.

          So--in this my last good night to you as your President--I thank you for the many opportunities you have given me for public service in war and peace. I trust that in that service you find some things worthy; as for the rest of it, I know you will find ways to improve performance in the future.

          You and I--my fellow citizens--need to be strong in our faith that all nations, under God, will reach the goal of peace with justice. May we be ever unswerving in devotion to principle, confident but humble with power, diligent in pursuit of the Nation's great goals.

          To all the peoples of the world, I once more give expression to America's prayerful and continuing aspiration:

          We pray that peoples of all faiths, all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from the earth, and that, in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love. link
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Interesting...

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            • Big Train
              Full Member Status

              • Apr 2004
              • 4013

              #7
              Re: 'An American who can't say no' by Pat Buchanan

              Originally posted by Vivian Campbell
              Posted: January 24, 2005
              1:00 a.m. Eastern

              With a million illegal aliens here, he ordered them home in "Operation Wetback." They went.

              Yes, we should all take pride in "Operation Wetback". As well as "Operation Gook", "Operation Nig", and mostly importantly, "Operation Pollock". Archie Bunker would be proud..

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                "Farewell Address" (January 17, 1961)

                I was actually thinking of posting this as a contrast and reference point to Bush's contradiction-ridden inaugural speech. Good post Ford.

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59643

                    #10
                    Given what Ike thought about the M-I-C, I'm not sure whether he would consider an aircraft carrier named after himself to be much of a tribute.

                    Was that your ship, Brian?
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • Pontius Pilate
                      Groupie
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Re: Re: 'An American who can't say no' by Pat Buchanan

                      Originally posted by Big Train
                      Yes, we should all take pride in "Operation Wetback". As well as "Operation Gook", "Operation Nig", and mostly importantly, "Operation Pollock". Archie Bunker would be proud..
                      Was it not a success, Mr. Big Train? If modern America had politicians brave enough to not only remove the illegal menace, but to also put a playful name to it, we wouldn’t have so many incidents of theft, rape, and murder. You must keep the barbarians far from the gates. Learn from the Romans!
                      Originally posted by scorpioboy33
                      you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
                      What is Truth?

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                      • Big Train
                        Full Member Status

                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4013

                        #12
                        If it was a sucess if they never came back. My guess is that it was a cosmetic thing. Modern immigration can't stop them, so exactly how did they do it back then? They probably pushed back to a certain point for a few days and then told the press how it was a huge success and that they solved the problem. Load of horseshit.

                        Theft, rape and murder....make sure you can see through your hood before you go to the rally...

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Given what Ike thought about the M-I-C, I'm not sure whether he would consider an aircraft carrier named after himself to be much of a tribute.

                          Was that your ship, Brian?
                          I don't think Ike, and JFK for that matter, would have been the least bit offended by having a ship named after them, fabricating WMD 'intelligence' to initiate a "War of Preemption," that's a different story!

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                          • Pontius Pilate
                            Groupie
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 54

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big Train
                            If it was a sucess if they never came back. My guess is that it was a cosmetic thing. Modern immigration can't stop them, so exactly how did they do it back then? They probably pushed back to a certain point for a few days and then told the press how it was a huge success and that they solved the problem. Load of horseshit.

                            Theft, rape and murder....make sure you can see through your hood before you go to the rally...


                            Typical neo-con comeback - the "YOU'RE A RACIST!" It's a tactic they learned back when they were Stalinists. The sunset is nearing for the neo-cons who conspire with government and big business to enslave the American man under the jack boot of low wages, welfare, warfare, and illegal immigration.
                            Originally posted by scorpioboy33
                            you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
                            What is Truth?

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                            • Big Train
                              Full Member Status

                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4013

                              #15
                              I called you a racist, not cause I'm a neocon, but because you fit the bill. Anyone who shows fear of another group of people and expresses it through hate and accusations, is a racist.

                              Let's not bullshit ourselves about this Operation Wetback. I'm sure in that very same year on farms all over this country, were all kinds of "raping" wetbacks. So if you believe that tripe, then obviously you lived in an idealized world of "Roughriding" presidents.

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