The world's worst dictator list

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Looks like a political list to me.

Some of the figures look dubious.

If Vietnam makes it where's Trueman for Hiroshima or Churchill for Dresden?

What's the difference between the Bombing of Dresden and a German comic?

At least the Dresden bombing can make you smile. :D



Tell that one to a German friend!

(Yeah, I know I told this on DDLR.com but felt the need to be inflammatory this morning. )

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
It's not illegal in Oklahoma I bet.

Conspiracy or incest ??

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Conspiracy or incest ??

Probably both! Remember, in Oklahoma, God tells TV preachers that He will "call them home" unless their viewers send in $100 million.

[ELVIS]

LMAO !!

[DLR'sCock]

I thought Stalin killed upwards of 20 million to 25 million actually...

[steve]

The list is technicaly called "The worst genocides of the 20th Century".

Each instance is what the author considers a single act or string of acts to be considered one act of genocide.

Thus, Stalin's 13 million number only includes the particular purges of 1934-1939.

Anyway... What a cold list - consdensing human being into statistics like that. Not that it isn't done, but it is rather hard to transfer the horror of a mass murder by putting a number on a peice of paper.

For instance, were Timothy MacVeigh or The DC Area Snipers any less of animalistic than each of these monster dictators? After all, they "only" killed 300 and 20 people each.

obviously, I am critiqing no one here - it's just lists like that make ya think.

When I see lists like this I am reminded of Primo Levi's books on the holocaust. They are...brutally honest and astonishing works. And in them he , in a way, condems all human beings for acts of genocide like this. that is a very simple explanation of his many writings of course and only my interpretation, but in each instance, somewhere along they way there are not only the dictators...there are followers, there are the the cattle-like masses that do not question authority, and there are those outside who se what is going on and do nothing about it. This perspective does not cast the dictators in any better light - they are some bad, bad folks, but I think it goes to show there is a bad side to humanity in general for acts of this scale to continually happen throughout history.

[Seshmeister]

It's all about how close is the death to you.

If 20,000 people die in an Earthquake in Asia it's second on the news by the day after, and disappears by the end of the week.

If 1 kid in your state gets abducted and killed then it's number 1 for weeks. Especially if it happens during the Summer when news stories are quiet.

I guess you can't blame the media it's just human nature.

Cheers!

[Ally_Kat]

well as per the Asia earthquake and the kid abduction/murder, it's all about newsworthyness. The local story about the kid in this case is more important for that area than the Asian earthquake.

there's this whole freakin' list of reasons on how to stack up newsstories.

[steve]

In this instance though, the subject is the calculated evil of man.

To be killed by nature, while not exactly great, could be argued as a far more dignified way to go.

This is not to say any single death means any less when done in by the forces of nature/chance such as earthquake, old age, or bus...but there is a certain unique sadness behind being done in by the will of man.

The Nazi haulocaust is not just looked upon as bad per the sheer numbers of dead people, but for the fact that it was engineered death...

1) systems engineering (the hiarchy of workers needed to do the jobs)

2) mechanical and chemical engineering (for the calculated and efficient slaughter of millions

3) social engineering (the propaganda to wrongly blame the Jews for no good reason for...well, for nothing really)

Whereas - is nature and or accidental chance a sentient/conscious being? No. Well, at least i don't think so.

For if one beleives in God's domain over nature, than he/she/it/nay/yay is at the top of the list - because he killed EVERYONE (aka: The Flood).

But, like I said, I don't come from that angle (belief in "God" - particuarly as any sort of sentient/conscious humanistic entity) so I think there is an inherient difference between nature/chance and man/consciousness.

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
If Vietnam makes it where's Trueman for Hiroshima or Churchill for Dresden?

you forgot to mention the fun Winnie had in Mesopotamia in the 1920's with mustard gas

what a guy!

those were the days

we had a lot of fun in palestine too, putting down jewish and palestinian uprisings

bring back the empire!

[Golden AWe]

Just came from Balkan last saturday...Sarajevo: