Dean ahead in votes for DNC chair

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  • Steve Savicki
    • Jan 2004
    • 3937

    Dean ahead in votes for DNC chair

    Let's pray he can make it to the 12th.
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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59558

    #2
    11 days until the ressurection begins
    Eat Us And Smile

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      Sunday, Jan. 30, 2005


      Dean: 'I Hate Republicans'

      The front-runner in the race to head up the so-called party of compassion and understanding said unabashedly on Saturday that he "hates" the opposition.

      "I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for," former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean told Democrats gathered at a Manhattan hotel, in quotes picked up by the New York Daily News.

      He and six other candidates came to address the final DNC forum before the Feb. 12 vote for chairman.
      Dean said that despite his hatred for the GOP, he "admires" their discipline and their organization.

      But he cautioned his Democratic audience that their party shouldn't become "Republican lite."

      "We can talk about our faith, but we cannot change our faith," he said. "We need to be people of conviction."

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59558

        #4
        How many times are you going to post that out of context quote?
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        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          As many as I want...

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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            How many times are you going to post that out of context quote?
            If you claim Elvis is posting it out of context, maybe you should put it IN context for us.
            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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            • McCarrens
              Foot Soldier
              • May 2004
              • 705

              #7
              I agree with BigBadBrian.
              "The security around the hotel was ridiculous. This chick was pounding and screaming at my door until four or five in the morning....finally I said fuck it, and let her out of the room"

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                I have no idea why FORD is all excited about Howard Dean...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59558

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  If you claim Elvis is posting it out of context, maybe you should put it IN context for us.
                  Can't find the transcript of the Sunday event, but I watched it on C-Span and know exactly what he said. The following FAUX News transcript should clarify where Gov Dean stands, however.....

                  BEGINNING OF INTERVIEW CLIP

                  Now that you've announced you're seeking the DNC Chairmanship, does that mean you're not going to run for President in 2008?

                  Dean: If I become the DNC Chair, I will not run for President in 2008. You really can't use this as a stepping stone to elective office, and my job will be to get other people elected.

                  Colmes: If you don't get the DNC Chair and you lose this election, would it hurt your chances to run for President?

                  Dean: I haven't even thought about that. You know, you focus on one election and I'm focusing on the DNC election.

                  Colmes: Why do you want to do this?

                  Dean: Because I think we're in the best financial shape we've been in, probably ever, certainly in my lifetime. We don't have a debt coming out of the presidential race, which is extraordinary. We now need to do, frankly, some of the things Republicans are doing. There's nothing I admire about the Republicans. They can't manage money. They've gotten us into a war without telling us the truth about why we're there. But I do admire their discipline and their organization. And we need to build a grassroots organization in the states the way the Republicans have.

                  Colmes: You said on Meet the Press, it could take some time to bring the Party together, diverse factions. You said, "I really fried the Party when I was out there running for President." What did you mean by that?

                  Dean: Well, you know, I think there's a tendency within the Party—inside Washington, not so much outside Washington—towards the Stockholm Syndrome. That is, you kind of drift towards the winner. In this case, the winner turns out to be a fairly right wing president. And I think it's a tendency inside Washington to think that if we can only be a little
                  more like the Republicans, then we can win.

                  It's a bipartisan problem. Bob Michael had this problem when he was Minority Leader, and Newt Gingrich stood up for what he believed. Now there's nothing I believe that Gingrich believes, but I do admire Gingrich's strategic ability. He differentiated the two Parties, claimed a particular set of issues and the beat us with those. We really need to understand that you win by differentiating yourself from the other party.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    So....Elvis WAS correct.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      So, out of one side of Dean's mouth we hear we need to be like Republicans, and the other we hear differentiate yourself from the other party.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49563

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        So, out of one side of Dean's mouth we hear we need to be like Republicans, and the other we hear differentiate yourself from the other party.

                        Alike in organization, apart in the bullshit.

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          I have my warts. I sometimes say things that get me in trouble. In other words, I lead with my heart and not my head. That's the only chance we have against George Bush.

                          Howard Dean

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            I've waffled before. I'll waffle again.

                            Howard Dean

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              Look, I'm not a perfect person. I have my warts. I sometimes say things that get me in trouble. I wear suits that are cheap. But I say what I think and I believe what I say, and I'm willing to say things that are not popular but ordinary people know are right.

                              Howard Dean

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