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  • Sgt Schultz
    Commando
    • Mar 2004
    • 1270

    1st Marine Div Commander Not a Girlie Man

    Marine General Counseled for Comments


    WASHINGTON - The commandant of the Marine Corps said Thursday he has counseled a senior subordinate for saying publicly, "It's fun to shoot some people."

    Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis, an infantry officer who has commanded Marines in both Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday while speaking to a forum in San Diego about strategies for the war on terror. Mattis is the commanding general of the Marine Corps Combat Development Command in Quantico, Va.

    According to an audio recording of Mattis' remarks, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. ... It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling."

    He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

    Thursday, Gen. Mike Hagee, commandant of the Marine Corps, issued a statement saying, "I have counseled him concerning his remarks and he agrees he should have chosen his words more carefully."

    "While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war," Hagee said. "Lt. Gen. Mattis often speaks with a great deal of candor."

    Hagee also praised Mattis, calling him "one of this country's bravest and most experienced military leaders."

    He said the commitment of Marines "helps to provide us the fortitude to take the lives of those who oppress others or threaten this nation's security. This is not something we relish, yet we accept it as a reality in our profession of arms."

    He said he was confident Mattis would continue to serve.

    According to Mattis' biography, he commanded, as a lieutenant colonel, an assault battalion during the first war with Iraq. During the war in Afghanistan, he commanded the 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade; in the second war in Iraq, he commanded the 1st Marine Division during the invasion and early period after the war.

    end story++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


    Looks like the press has their Patton. What would they rather have as the leader of the 1st Marines? Madeline Albright?
  • Phil theStalker
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 3843

    #2
    He is a grade A-asshole.

    He is no hero.

    He will be disciplined for his remarks in some form.

    You or the media won't be there for the military hearing.

    His career is ova and out, Roger Ivan Peter.



    "IT'S FUN TO KILL, IT'S FUN TO DIE."
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    • Phil theStalker
      Full Member Status

      • Jan 2004
      • 3843

      #3
      Oh yeh, he's gonna have a 1st Amendment defense in that hearing, but he was wearing that uniform in front of a lot of microphones and cameras and on the payroll.

      No more mess, no more odors, he's history.


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      • YAWN

        #4
        What the blue fuck did you expect him to say? He's a FUCKING SOLDIER, not a stuffed-shirt, do-not-offend-at-all-costs media darling poilitician. For fuck's sake, it's like being surprised that Sammy wrote a cheesy love ballad. It's their lot in life; it's what they FUCKING DO.

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        • ODShowtime
          ROCKSTAR

          • Jun 2004
          • 5812

          #5
          I'm glad we have crazy fucks like that around, as long as I don't cross paths with them! :D
          gnaw on it

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          • YAWN

            #6
            Originally posted by ODShowtime
            I'm glad we have crazy fucks like that around, as long as I don't cross paths with them! :D
            HA! Remember Heartbreak Ridge? "You oughta be sealed in a case labeled 'open only in case of war'". Ah, he ain't fookin' crazy, man... he's a victim of new age pantywaists who judge people by what they say rather than what they do. Once upon a time, not so long ago, things were the other way around.

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            • Pontius Pilate
              Groupie
              • Jan 2005
              • 54

              #7
              A fine Chap indeed. I could have used him back in the day.
              Originally posted by scorpioboy33
              you are a piece of garbage...a nothing...a zero...you don't matter....you make me sick...karma has a way of biting you in the ass when you least expect it ...expect it...!
              What is Truth?

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35754

                #8
                The climax of Heartbreak Ridge in Grenada kind of skirted over the fact that 20,000 heavily armed US troops bravely took on 10 students armed with a waterpistol and a pretty sharp pencil.

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                • YAWN

                  #9
                  Hey, that was a whole BOX of pencils, man!!! And we're not talking everyday #2's, either, dude... these are full-blown #3HH Dixon Ticonderogas!!!

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    God forbid we have soldiers who like to fight and are not afraid of the enemy...

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49567

                      #11
                      "YOU KNOW THAT SMELL...I LOVE THE SMELL OF MARK 77 FIRE BOMBS IN THE MORNING....SMELLS LIKE...VICTORY!"

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                      • DLR'sCock
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2937

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        The climax of Heartbreak Ridge in Grenada kind of skirted over the fact that 20,000 heavily armed US troops bravely took on 10 students armed with a waterpistol and a pretty sharp pencil.
                        Yeah, a friend of mine was there...

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                        • Phil theStalker
                          Full Member Status

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3843

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          "YOU KNOW THAT SMELL...I LOVE THE SMELL OF MARK 77 FIRE BOMBS IN THE MORNING....SMELLS LIKE...VICTORY!"
                          That's it eggzactly, Nick. Guys like that are nuts. I love ELVIS, but he shows immaturity with his views. ELVIS doesn't know about the "nuts." You and I, and millions more, do know about them.

                          Shape up, ELVIS.


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                          • The Scatologist
                            Sniper
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 932

                            #14
                            So go help them Sgt Scock you manly man man.
                            The name Sammy Hagar conjures up a variety of emotions from music fans--from hate to contempt, from disgust to revulsion.

                            -TheSmokingGun.com

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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10625

                              #15
                              Re: 1st Marine Div Commander Not a Girlie Man

                              Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
                              Marine General Counseled for Comments


                              WASHINGTON - The commandant of the Marine Corps said Thursday he has counseled a senior subordinate for saying publicly, "It's fun to shoot some people."

                              Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis, an infantry officer who has commanded Marines in both Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday while speaking to a forum in San Diego about strategies for the war on terror. Mattis is the commanding general of the Marine Corps Combat Development Command in Quantico, Va.

                              According to an audio recording of Mattis' remarks, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. ... It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling."

                              He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis continued. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

                              Thursday, Gen. Mike Hagee, commandant of the Marine Corps, issued a statement saying, "I have counseled him concerning his remarks and he agrees he should have chosen his words more carefully."

                              "While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war," Hagee said. "Lt. Gen. Mattis often speaks with a great deal of candor."

                              Hagee also praised Mattis, calling him "one of this country's bravest and most experienced military leaders."

                              He said the commitment of Marines "helps to provide us the fortitude to take the lives of those who oppress others or threaten this nation's security. This is not something we relish, yet we accept it as a reality in our profession of arms."

                              He said he was confident Mattis would continue to serve.

                              According to Mattis' biography, he commanded, as a lieutenant colonel, an assault battalion during the first war with Iraq. During the war in Afghanistan, he commanded the 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade; in the second war in Iraq, he commanded the 1st Marine Division during the invasion and early period after the war.

                              end story++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


                              Looks like the press has their Patton. What would they rather have as the leader of the 1st Marines? Madeline Albright?

                              We need more brave men like this on our fighting team.

                              Last edited by BigBadBrian; 02-05-2005, 09:09 AM.
                              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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