Seperation of Church and State: The Myth

[Cathedral]

Incidentally, If everyone followed the Ten Commandments as law we would have no need for police or judges, or prisons for that matter.

Oh what a dream world that would be, eh?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Warham
I think liberals are just trying to remove 'God' from everything, when clearly that was never the original intention. God was intentionally included in our founding documents, for good reasons.

Because he's real, and we are nothing but lost without his blessings.

[FORD]

Do I have to post the Jefferson Bible yet again to debunk this idea that TJ, George and the gang were the (1)700 Club of their time?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Because he's real, and we are nothing but lost without his blessings.

If Jesus wanted governments to be "Christian" he would have overthrown the Roman Empire.

But at least if Jesus had done so, it would have been Christian.

Nothing remotely resembling that will ever come from a BCE government.

RE-ELECT JIMMY CARTER 2008!!

(A President who is a REAL Christian)

[FORD]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Incidentally, If everyone followed the Ten Commandments as law we would have no need for police or judges, or prisons for that matter.

Oh what a dream world that would be, eh?

If it was truly enforced, maybe. But under the BCE, it would be a case where "Thou Shalt Not Kill" applies to abortion clinics, but NOT to wholesale slaughter of brown skinned civilians in countries who have resources they want to steal.

Oops.. I guess "Thou Shalt Not Steal" would have to be re-defined as well.

As well as the 7 other commandments that Junior has broken...

(Adultery hasn't been proven yet)

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Angel
Thanks, Cat. Another reason why I'm glad to be North of the Border.

Another reason I´m glad I live here!

Religion sucks!

It´s for idiots who don´t trust their own common sense.



BTW, cheap hotel Bibles are a good substitute for toilet paper.

[Little_Skittles]

KENTUCKY..........our bibles teach us how to live our life in a good way. When you don't have god in your life any god your useless.

You've no sense of direction, so therefore your lost and confused about life. Religion is the greatest thing in the world.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
If Jesus wanted governments to be "Christian" he would have overthrown the Roman Empire.

But at least if Jesus had done so, it would have been Christian.

Nothing remotely resembling that will ever come from a BCE government.

RE-ELECT JIMMY CARTER 2008!!

(A President who is a REAL Christian)

No Government will ever be Christian because no admin ever has been, even Carter's.
He played the game just like everyone else, but if he held his values close, good for him.
But the point of my post has been completely missed by a lot of you (no labels given here).
It has nothing to do with Jefferson, it is as simple as pointing out that the 1st Ammendment itself says nothing about seperating the church from the state.

I am certainly not suggesting that the Bush Camp step forward and use words like smite, and repent, it won't happen.
But to expand on that, and to help inflate your BCE Rants maybe just a little...Bush basically lied by running the "Christian" angle knowing two full years before the 2000 election that he had no intentions of pressing any of those issues, he put on a good show, and he got the job.
I won't answer for anyone else's sins but my own, so their standing with God i would certainly like to see improve, but the choice is not mine to make for them.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAME OF POLITICS!

And i'm certainly not going to spend my days focusing on the iniquities of others as is done so much in this forum.

If you can use your information to impliment change for the better, then fine. But if your going to use it to serve man, I'll have no part in it.
The fact is, bible prophecy is unfolding, it has been since the beginning of time and it doesn't make one bit of difference who sits in the White House or what we think we can do to alter world destiny.

Everything will and has happened exactly as it has been written, and no flood of lies should be allowed to seperate us from one another.
And to deny that our course has already been laid out for us is an attempt at ignoring the obvious.

Ford, You are obsessed with the "BCE", it shows in every single post you submit.
All i can say is that you should probably consider getting your own house in order and forget about your fellow man and their short comings.
nobody is perfect, and the least of which would be any political organization.
People will be tried and judged by their own works, maybe not in this life, but in the next, surely.
And when you stand before God i would hope you don't start your session with "Well, the BCE did this, and did that, so it wasn't my fault, blah blah blah blah blah..." let it go, man.

The best thing you can do is to pray for those who aren't walking with the Lord, in fact, it's the only thing you can do for them and yourself.

Going off on rants here will do nothing, and leave you as empty as when you started.
No change will come from it.

Luv Ya, man...and God Bless!

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
KENTUCKY..........our bibles teach us how to live our life in a good way. When you don't have god in your life any god your useless.

You've no sense of direction, so therefore your lost and confused about life. Religion is the greatest thing in the world.

You don´t even know the difference between "your" and "you´re" in YOUR own fucking language.:p :p

[ELVIS]

Yes she does...

[Angel]

Obviously, Elvis doesn't either.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Angel
Obviously, Elvis doesn't either.

Well, skittles might have made an attempt at irony. It´s well known around the world that Americans aren´t very good at that!

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by Little_Skittles
KENTUCKY..........our bibles teach us how to live our life in a good way. When you don't have god in your life any god your useless.

You've no sense of direction, so therefore your lost and confused about life. Religion is the greatest thing in the world.

Oh, bullshit.

Speaking as an atheist I have more direction than 99% of the people on this planet. Lost and confused?

Do you think that all atheists are depressed people with no sense of self worth? Get over it. I have seen believers that have a never ending sense of dread about themselves. Explain why this happens if we need religion to be happy. Go ahead.

Religion does not give you a purpose, it doesn't even promise to make you "useful" or whatever you're trying to mean by that.

[Angel]

Thank you Pink - my sentiments EXACTLY!

[Warham]

Christ gives you hope. I don't know about the other religions.