My Felon Americans

[DrMaddVibe]

I don't make up the stats!

That's the facts, if you don't like them...too bad.

They are what they are.

Figures don't lie and liars always figure!

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Big Train
Is VOTING REALLY a deterrent to crime?

It's not a deterrent...its a privilage.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
I don't make up the stats!

That's the facts, if you don't like them...too bad.

They are what they are.

Figures don't lie and liars always figure!

uh...what are the facts?

Certainly, the facts aren't that 100% of felons re-enter the criminal justice system. And even if they did, should that mean that NO ONE should vote under the logic of they MAY someday face criminal charges for God knows what?

And let's look at the facts: the criminal justice system is ARBITRARY: if you've got the oney for the best legal representation, you TOO can get felony charges reduced to a misdemeanor or even dismissed.

[DrMaddVibe]

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/reentry/reentry.htm

[academic punk]

I'm actually wondering what the property crimes were...

But as I said, those numbers fall far short of 100%, so I still don't understand the blanket assertion that

But, without looking at it again...I beleive it was 33% of those were drug-related. A great deal of those would be for possession for personal use rather than trafficking. You're telling me that you believe that someone who was busted for having an ounce of grass at the age of 24, who gets out at 27, serves a one year parole, should NEVER have the right to vote again for the rest of their life?

[DrMaddVibe]

I'm not the emperor of the US. I'm not a governor of a State either, hell, I'm not even a politician!

It's MY opinion. In the grand scheme of things it means very little.

I've already stated my beliefs.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
It's not a deterrent...its a privilage.

Uh huh. So let's run the tape here...someone commits a crime, loses all priveleges of society. Ok, no problem with that. HOWEVER, once they reenter society, should they not get some of those privleges back in order to re-integrate them into society?

Some rights, such as having a weapon, make sense to restrict from a felon. Voting does not...it just reinforces that society sees them as second class citizens, which does little to make them warm and fuzzy towards society when the temptation to cause more crime comes along.

Your right, numbers don't lie..but if you don't understand the logic behind how the numbers work, you can easily be fooled.