Repubs have no respect for animals.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
We should all drive FORD Escorts.

Some of us can't fit in one of those. That's why I left the option of trucks being sold to those who NEED them. However, that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be trying to make more efficient truck engines. Supposedly, Ford, GM, and Toyota are developing hybrid engines for trucks. And the large trucks with diesel engines can switch to biodiesel. The local bus system here has switched over, and it's a great thing to not see the black smoke spewing out of those buses.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
We should all drive FORD Escorts.

I a few years, we might not have a choice.

[Warham]

Sounds like trying to put a limit on personal freedoms to me.

This from a guy who thinks gay marriage should be allowed, but it's not OK for a person who's 5'2" to own a FORD F-150.

[Cathedral]

It's supply and demand, if you eliminate the demand, there is no need for supplying, right?

I hate this issue because in all reality, if you drive a car with a gas engine, you contribute to the problem.
I have 3 vehicles, and they all require gas, so i have no right to complain, and neither does anyone else unless you have an alternative fuel vehicle, or no vehicle at all.

In my opinion this whole alternate fuel issue is bogus. I have heard my entire life how we are persuing or will persue different fuel sources.

I remember the electric car, nobody purchased them in enough numbers to make it successful. Ford (the motor company) has produced alternate fuel vehicles, sales didn't justify the expense of making them.
Is it Honda? They have a line of alternate fuel vehicles and sales aren't doing well at all for those.

People, this is a problem that has to be remedied in the individuals homes, not by what the government does or doesn't do.
If we weren't sucking the shit down like we do there would not be an issue today.

We the people have to change our lifestyle and reduce our dependance on oil all together.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Sounds like trying to put a limit on personal freedoms to me.

This from a guy who thinks gay marriage should be allowed, but it's not OK for a person who's 5'2" to own a FORD F-150.

Who are you referring too?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Cathedral


I remember the electric car, nobody purchased them in enough numbers to make it successful. Ford (the motor company) has produced alternate fuel vehicles, sales didn't justify the expense of making them.
Is it Honda? They have a line of alternate fuel vehicles and sales aren't doing well at all for those.

Not true. Toyota can't keep the Prius in stock and there is a waiting list the size of Harley Davidson's.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Who are you referring too?

FORD.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Not true. Toyota can't keep the Prius in stock and there is a waiting list the size of Harley Davidson's.

Not in this part of the country. and thanks for the info on who's making it.
They have a bunch sitting on a lot down the street that aren't selling so there is a conflict in that fact somewhere.
Someone needs to tell them that Fairfield Ohio has them to spare.

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe that 'cause people like Honda Insights in Ohio.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Sounds like trying to put a limit on personal freedoms to me.

This from a guy who thinks gay marriage should be allowed, but it's not OK for a person who's 5'2" to own a FORD F-150.

The BCE isn't invading foreign countries because of gay marriage. And it's an F-350. A 150 would be more reasonable.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Maybe that 'cause people like Honda Insights in Ohio.

V8 sales are actually up here, even with the gas prices rising.
I'm too tall for Honda's and Toyotas, and i can't afford the Lexus or Infinity.
Surprisingly though, the Toyota trucks are hard to keep stocked, and the Kia's for some reason have above average sales also.

Pontiac is down, Oldsmobile is down, but Chrysler is up and they're selling the shit out of the HEMI cars.

Ford's have always been great sellers here, just not their hybrid cars.

[Nickdfresh]

But sales of trucks and SUV's are down overall, and that is a good thing. Toyotas are tough and run forever though, and the little Korean cars a cheap and much better than they used to be.

Olds is almost dead, so no one will buy that. I don't think Ford really has a hybrid yet, although the Escape? is supposed to be a hybrid and the Jeep Liberty now comes in a diesel.

And never, ever buy a NISSAN TITAN. My brother liked my car, so he bought the new pickup. It's been through two rear differentials, a transmission, and finally his powersteering blew. They're being pricks to him about it so he's suing under the Lemon Law.

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[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
The BCE isn't invading foreign countries because of gay marriage. And it's an F-350. A 150 would be more reasonable.

The BCE isn't invading for oil either.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
The BCE isn't invading for oil either.

Funny how Iraq, with NO weapons but a shit load of oil, was considered a better target for invasion than North Korea, with an active weapons program, but NO oil.