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  • Warham
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 14589

    #76
    Really, so CNN's website made an error in their transcription?

    It doesn't really matter in the long run. The guy has already made conflicting statements over the years.

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    • Guitar Shark
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7579

      #77
      I don't have access to the video right now, but I watched the interview and my memory is consistent with tomballin's recollection. I could be wrong though. Either way, I wouldn't read anything into that particular statement. Who knows what kind of blunder any of us would make under the bright lights of Larry King Live. Those suspenders have GOT to affect people's concentration.
      ROTH ARMY MILITIA


      Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
      Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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      • tomballin
        Commando
        • Dec 2004
        • 1284

        #78
        Originally posted by Warham
        KING: Have you had any contact with the family today? This is a sad day all the way around, Michael. We know of your dispute.

        M. SCHIAVO: I've had no contact with them.

        KING: No contact at all?

        M. SCHIAVO: No.

        KING: Do you understand how they feel?

        M. SCHIAVO: Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want...
        Let's debate the facts, not the bullshit. The transcript is wrong. I hate the Scott Peterson clone like you War but not everything the man says it total bullshit.

        Terri's father is just as full of shit as MS a lot of times, and it gets REAL old.

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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14589

          #79
          Oh, he's made enough contradictory statements over the years to debate other than this one.

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          • academic punk
            Full Member Status

            • Dec 2004
            • 4437

            #80
            Originally posted by academic punk
            http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...oman_texas_law

            enjoy.

            and, yes, I would appreciate your trying to explain this.
            can't help but notice no one has preached on this one.

            c'mon, ham, preach it to me. you're going to give MS a hiding for his contradictory statements, let's see how you spin this.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59661

              #81
              But.... but..... but..... Junior is incapable of errors, because God speaks through him
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Warham
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 14589

                #82
                Quote from said article:

                The Texas law does not include a provision for dealing with conflicts among family members who disagree with the surrogate decision-maker — as has happened in the Schiavo case — although in practice hospital ethics committees would try to resolve such disputes, he said.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49572

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Warham
                  Oh, he's made enough contradictory statements over the years to debate other than this one.
                  But I'm sure her parents never have!

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                  • academic punk
                    Full Member Status

                    • Dec 2004
                    • 4437

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Warham
                    Quote from said article:

                    The Texas law does not include a provision for dealing with conflicts among family members who disagree with the surrogate decision-maker — as has happened in the Schiavo case — although in practice hospital ethics committees would try to resolve such disputes, he said.

                    uh-uh. not letting you off the hook on a technicality. This law gives the hospital - not the spouse, not the parents - jurisdiction to ends someones life, regardless of that persons wishes, whether written, stated, or otherwise.

                    what about everything you're saying here? that life should be preserved so long as there is life?

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                    • Warham
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 14589

                      #85
                      I've been saying since I got into this...as long as there's a will, then it's indisputable.

                      This is different.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59661

                        #86
                        And let's not forget that the law Junior signed allows the hospital to end treatment because of inability to pay

                        Another fine example of BCE "compassionate conservatism"?
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • tomballin
                          Commando
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 1284

                          #87
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          And let's not forget that the law Junior signed allows the hospital to end treatment because of inability to pay

                          Another fine example of BCE "compassionate conservatism"?
                          Nailed that one Ford. It was totally a money deal.

                          The Texas Medical Center, largest medical center in the world, and other hospital organizations were getting slammed bad on excess cost overruns because of the Clinton induced '97 medical cost containment act.

                          So the hospitals were looking for ways to cut costs, and stop treating inability to pay patients, and Bush always helps his corporate buddies.

                          Same reason MD Anderson started turning out terminal cancer patients on the street, left and right. Of course, if you are Eddie Van Halen, come on in.

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