Are the Madrid train bombings a "test case" for a BCE "October Surprise"??

[Flash Bastard]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Iraq is not al-Qaida.

Who said it was?

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Who ran away from it first?

Define it.

F

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Fixing problems in your own country is the best way to end terrorism. Feed a terrorist organization and they just get bigger.
I think the Spaniards might just prove that theory.

Are you suggesting we Americans elect Kerry and turn into a nation of spineless pussies like France and Germany? No thanks, pal.

[Flash Bastard]

Originally posted by Cathedral
This thread alone proves that Liberal's do not love this country if they are not the Puppet Master.

Someday, when the liberal minded people wake up they will figure out that Bush was the best thing for this country at this particular time.

Just the things i read in this forum from the left supporters is enough to make me weep because you just-don't-get-it.
It also has dawned on me that the left doesn't like independant thinkers because they cannot be manipulated into believing trumped up charges without "PROOF" of said conspiracies.

I do not want the America you have planned for us because it flies in the face of everything my faith leads me to believe.
We sat through 8 years of nothing leadership with Clinton, yet you lib's have been kicking and screaming since day 1 of the Bush Admin.

Where is the fair and equal representation for those of us who do not see eye to eye with YOUR political visions?
We don't rate a voice or an opinion on how a strong Nation should be run?
The only idiots in this country are the one's that think that one political party is more honest than the other. the one who thinks that any party has the interests of those who actually make it function....The hard working tax payers making $35,000 a year.

Here's the kicker. it doesn't matter who sits in the oval office in Washington because everything we are witnessing in our world was written about in the scriptures and it will come to pass whether you like it or not, believe it or not, embrace it or not.

You can blame whomever you want. lay it at the feet of a political party, but understand one thing folks.....It is ALL MAN who is to blame for the fate of this world.

I saw some footage of John Kerry attending a church service the other day and was shocked to see that when the pastor started talking about abortion Kerry got up and walked out of the service.

You can pick and choose which party to vote for, but you cannot pick and choose which scriptures you agree with and don't.

So many people in this country are not being represented by our government on both sides of the isle it is pathetic. Political Correctness is responsible for basically setting our temperment back to the dark ages and the result will be total and complete anarchy in the streets if the sane minded folk on both sides refuse to put a stop to it. the voters simply don't have that power thanks to a thing called The Electorate.......

Preach on, brother Cat.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Iraq is not al-Qaida. Who ran away from it first?

Fixing problems in your own country is the best way to end terrorism. Feed a terrorist organization and they just get bigger.
I think the Spaniards might just prove that theory.

I disagree that fixing our own country will defeat Terrorism.
It is allowing Dictators to stay in power when we have the power to remove them that makes them hate us.
Not to pump up Ford's boat here, but America was dealing with these thugs years ago while the citizens suffered at the hand of their leader and the evil regime's. (Sorry Ford, but both sides were involved in those deals)
They can not understand why we stood by, made deals, and ignored their plight. So they banded together, created terrorist cells all in the name of bringing the US to its knee's.
What they fail to understand is that we will never buckle to their tactics, ever.

This shocks me because nobody seems to be talking about why the terrorists target us. But if you do some homework and go to the source (the middle east) and ask the citizens there, they will tell you it is because we have a history of buddying up with dictators all in the name of profit and political agendas.
meanwhile they are allowed to suffer by a great Nation that is known for liberating the oppressed.
I don't blame them one bit for striking us given that information, they clearly see us as supporters of their suffering.

Removing Saddam Hussein was a great strategic move in the direction of changing that image of America.
It will however be for not if we don't stay the course and bring freedom to those who hunger for something they see but never taste.

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by Flash Bastard
Who said it was?

Lots of people.

Define it.

The war on terror.

Are you suggesting we Americans elect Kerry and turn into a nation of spineless pussies ( ) like France and Germany?

Have you ever read any my posts on here? Kerry has little support on this board.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Pink Spider
Liberals already had support. At one time 90% of Spain was against involvement in the war against Iraq. The government was on the way out before the bombings.

Nice try.

Either way, they're putting their tails between their legs and running like the cowards they are. And I'm talking about their new government, not their troops.

[Cathedral]

He even has less support from a majority of his own party but that will not keep power hungry Democrats from rushing to vote for him.

But i think we'll give Bush another 4 years just so he can fix everything Clinton left a mess.
The biggest lie a Liberal tells him or herself is that Clinton did anything but ride the coatails of an economy he had nothing to do with and the "fact" that it was declining before he left office seems to be ignored by you horn blowers that try to convince yourselves and others that he was the one responsible for such a great economy.
He taxed the people like crazy and built up a surplus from the funds that should have been returned to those who earned it.

Bush did exactly that and i certainly got my money and i'm not rich. that is just another partisan poltiical lie by the left.
What gets me is how the Liberals can twist facts and distort issues right in front of those who know better and never have to answer for their inconsistencies.

I am an independant thinker and follow the beat of my own drum, which is why Liberals don't like me much. I cannot be convinced of anything without proof to support accusations no matter how appealing a conspiracy theory may seem.
Sure it looks good and supports your agenda, but is it the truth? More often than not it isn't.
I also love how John Kerry manages to avoid answering questions about rediculous, undocumented and unproven alligations he keeps making about the Bush Admin.

I just hope the man doesn't actually think he can win in November, but liars do tend to believe their own stories after awhile.

[BigBadBrian]

Well said, Cat.

[Seshmeister]

It's another blinding success for Al Queda whether they did it or not.

Them claiming responsibility effectively overthrew a Western democratic government,

I don't think I will be travelling around the next time there is an election on so they're starting to beat me too...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Either way, they're putting their tails between their legs and running like the cowards they are. And I'm talking about their new government, not their troops.

It's only 1300 troops anyway, they can leave now for all i care so why wait till June?

Pay close attention to this situation because it will be an example of what happens here at home if Kerry wins the election.
I'll personally consider leaving America the day we cut and run from any Terrorist Organization.

Which by the way is what Kerry will do if he actually beats Bush.

If you were ever bullied in school you would understand that NOT fighting back will only get you bullied tomorrow by other bullies.

Fight back and you earn the respect of those bullies, especially when you knock them on their ass.
Then you either become a defender of those who are bullied or become a bully yourself..........I prefer to stand up for the weak and defend their honor no matter what part of the world they reside in.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Cathedral

If you were ever bullied in school you would understand that NOT fighting back will only get you bullied tomorrow by other bullies.

Fight back and you earn the respect of those bullies, especially when you knock them on their ass.

When I was really young, around 1st through 4th grade, my father gave me permission to use a baseball bat if necessary.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
It's another blinding success for Al Queda whether they did it or not.

Them claiming responsibility effectively overthrew a Western democratic government,

I don't think I will be travelling around the next time there is an election on so they're starting to beat me too...

What you have to do Sesh is get your mind set NOT to be afraid of death, it will come to all of us eventually and i'd rather not live in fear between now and then.
If i got on a plane today and it was blown out of the sky i can accept the fact that it was simply my time to go.
I believe that when your number is up it won't make any difference where you are or what you are doing, Death will find you...

I fear no man on this earth and i thank my father for teaching me never to back down from anyone, win or lose...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
When I was really young, around 1st through 4th grade, my father gave me permission to use a baseball bat if necessary.

LOL, that would be a little axtreme, but then again who am i to say since i used a gun at one point in my past to back down a black dude who was pushing me around.

It all came to a head in gym class one day and he was running his mouth so i walked up to him and drilled him full force in the chest.
He got up and pretty much kicked my butt, but we became friends after that incident....See, i earned his respect by NOT running and hiding and the trouble certainly would have continued until i took a stand.

Don't let someone intimidate you in any way shape or form if you want to be happy. Living in fear is not living my friends...

[FORD]

[Dr. Love]

Well, it'll be interesting to see the contrast. We got attacked and sent troops across the globe to fight back.

Spain got attacked and recalls all her troops.

I wonder what'll happen, but I bet Spain gets attacked anytime a terrorist wants something from them

[John Ashcroft]

Heh heh heh... Better get used to it Ford. You're cute little posters aren't gonna win the white house for Kerry. The "Hate platform" didn't even win Dean your own party's primary.