Bill Frist Continues to Subvert the American Way!

[Warham]

shitty economy?

My salary is better than it's ever been!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
shitty economy?

My salary is better than it's ever been!

Well you don't work at Walmart then!

My brother's moving to the "Live Free or Die" state. Just over the border from Mass.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
shitty economy?

My salary is better than it's ever been!

Must work for Lockheed Martin or some other death merchant.

[DrMaddVibe]

Yeah, Warham...how could you!

Didn't you get the memo?

Only bad news....snicker!

[Warham]

Yeah, I work for a death merchant....LMAO!

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
Must work for Lockheed Martin or some other death merchant.

I guess all our military men and women.....all the civil service people that support the military are "death merchants" also, huh?

[DrMaddVibe]

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:50 a.m. EDT

Hillary Snubs Christian Group

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton claimed in January that she was interested in reaching out to conservative Christian groups in a bid to find "common ground" on contentious issues like abortion.

But when the Christian Defense Coalition tried to take Mrs. Clinton up on her offer, she blew them off, a leader of the group said Monday.

"We are profoundly disappointed that Senator Clinton has refused to sit down and dialogue with a broad coalition of voices within the pro-life community after suggesting she wanted to reach out to us," complained CDC spokesman Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney.

"It now seems that the statements Senator Clinton made, concerning finding common ground on abortion, were politically motivated and not sincere," he added.

Rev. Mahoney says that his and other pro-life groups have been trying to secure a face-to-face meeting with the top Democrat for two months. But Clinton's office has ignored them.

Speaking on the 32nd anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, the former first lady told a pro-abortion group in Albany, N.Y., "There is an opportunity for people of good faith to find common ground in this debate."

"I, for one, respect those who believe with all their hearts and minds that there are no circumstances under which any abortion should ever be available," she added.

But Rev. Mahoney said Clinton's actions speak louder than her words.

"It now seems that the statements Senator Clinton made, concerning finding common ground on abortion, were politically motivated and not sincere," he lamented. "I think it is critical that the American public focus more on what Senator Clinton does concerning abortion, rather than her rhetoric, as we move closer to the presidential campaign season."


So much for reaching out!

[Warham]

Hillary snubbing a Christian group???

As Fleetwood Mac would say: "What's the world comin' to?"

[Nickdfresh]

And the Repubican Judges are Psychotic Liars that need a history lesson!

April 26, 2005

Faith 'War' Rages in U.S., Judge Says
A Bush nominee central to the Senate's judicial controversy criticizes secular humanists.

By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — Just days after a bitterly divided Senate committee voted along party lines to approve her nomination as a federal appellate court judge, California Supreme Court Justice Janice Rogers Brown told an audience Sunday that people of faith were embroiled in a "war" against secular humanists who threatened to divorce America from its religious roots, according to a newspaper account of the speech.

Uh-huh, I thought America really didn't have "religious roots," she needs to read more Thomas Jefferson!

Brown's remarks come as a partisan battle over judges has evolved into a national debate over the proper mix of God and government and as Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) ponders changing the chamber's rules to prevent Democrats from using procedural moves to block confirmation of conservative jurists such as Brown.

God belongs in church and in peoples' belief systems, not in law!

Her comments to a gathering of Roman Catholic legal professionals in Darien, Conn., came on the same day as "Justice Sunday: Stop the Filibuster Against People of Faith," a program produced by evangelical leaders and simulcast on the Internet and in homes and churches around the country. It was designed to paint opponents of Bush's judicial nominees as intolerant of believers.

Though unrelated to that program, Brown's remarks sounded similar themes.

"There seems to have been no time since the Civil War that this country was so bitterly divided. It's not a shooting war, but it is a war," she said, according to a report published Monday in the Stamford Advocate.

"These are perilous times for people of faith," she said, "not in the sense that we are going to lose our lives, but in the sense that it will cost you something if you are a person of faith who stands up for what you believe in and say those things out loud."

Oh brother! The Republicans control most of the government! I don't recall any Christians being burned at the stake recently. We really need more of this hysteria bullshit.

A spokeswoman for the California Supreme Court, Lynn Holton, said no text was available because "it was a talk, not a speech."Brown's office did not dispute the newspaper's account.

The Advocate quoted Brown as lamenting that America had moved away from the religious traditions on which it was founded.

What religious traditions would those be?

"When we move away from that, we change our whole conception of the most significant idea that America has to offer, which is this idea of human freedom and this notion of liberty," she said.

She added that atheism "handed human destiny over to the great god, autonomy, and this is quite a different idea of freedom…. Freedom then becomes willfulness."

Brown's remarks drew praise Monday from one of the nation's most prominent evangelical leaders, Gary Bauer, president of the socially conservative advocacy group American Values.

"No wonder the radical left opposes her," Bauer wrote in an e-mail to supporters. "Janice Rogers Brown understands the great culture war raging in America. That is why the abortion crowd, the homosexual rights movement and the radical secularists are all demanding that Senate liberals block her confirmation."

Brown was first nominated by President Bush in 2003 to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, an appointment considered a steppingstone to the U.S. Supreme Court. She has emerged as one of the president's most controversial judicial nominees — and one of the conservative movement's favorite examples of Democratic delays.

The nominations of Brown and nine other conservatives have been central to a bitter fight that both sides view as a precursor to an ideological brawl over replacing Supreme Court Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, who has cancer.

Democrats blocked Brown's confirmation by the full Senate, charging that she held extremist views that interfere with her ability to render objective judgments. She has a history of delivering provocative speeches.

Democrats have questioned speeches in which she called the New Deal the "triumph of our socialist revolution." She has described herself as a "true conservative" who believes that "where the government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates…. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."

She's a radical cunt that seeks to make the entire Federal Gov't essentially illegal! Let's have a vote on that! Uh-wait, it would never pass, so lets take over the court instead! Now who's the "judicial activists?"

Questioned in 2003 about her comments, Brown conceded that she was blunt when addressing conservative audiences.

"I don't have a speechwriter," she said. "I do these myself. And it speaks for itself."

As the article describing Brown's remarks was circulated Monday on websites and in e-mails, one advocacy group opposing Bush's nominees charged that her remarks were a timely reminder of why the California judge should not be promoted.

"It's so shocking that in the middle of this battle she would say such extraordinarily intemperate things," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

AMEN!

Brown's comments came at a breakfast following the Red Mass, an annual spring gathering of lawyers, judges and other legal professionals sponsored by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Bridgeport, Conn.

In previous years, speakers at the diocese's breakfast have included former appellate Judge Robert Bork, whose nomination to the Supreme Court was defeated by the Senate in 1987, and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

Two religious leaders who heard Brown speak Sunday had only praise. The Rev. Michael R. Moynihan, pastor of a church in Greenwich, Conn., and an organizer of the Red Mass, said he was impressed with Brown.

"She caused all of us to reflect more profoundly on the intersection between law and morality, and on the role of religion in shaping those virtues and values, which are crucial to our democratic way of life," said Bishop William E. Lori, the head of the Bridgeport diocese, who invited Brown to address the group.

Link

[Warham]

America was founded on the morality that there is a creator.

I don't think the Founding Fathers ever thought that America should be a godless society.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
America was founded on the morality that there is a creator.

I don't think the Founding Fathers ever thought that America should be a godless society.

I agree to a point. But they cleary did not want a theocracy either.

America was also founded on the principles of the Enlightenment.

[Warham]

I think, although I haven't read enough of their writings and letters, that they believed society would be better behaved and more moral by believing in a higher power, ala the Christian/Jewish God and His Ten Commandments.

[Guitar Shark]

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE VANISHES, REPLACED BY NEW ENTITY CALLED STURCH

Will Offer Salvation, Motor Vehicle Renewals on Sunday

The separation of church and state, long considered a hallmark of American democracy, vanished early Sunday morning, replaced by a new institution called sturch.

Scientists at the Clausen Observatory at the University of Minnesota, who for years have been monitoring a widening hole in the wall separating church and state, said that the wall disappeared entirely on Sunday morning shortly after 8:00 (EST).

“We first noticed the hole in the wall developing about four years ago,” said the University of Minnesota’s Davis Logsdon. “But now it’s pretty much no wall and all hole.”

While the exact shape and dimensions of the new church-state entity, sturch, remain to be determined, President Bush today installed as its official leader the Reverend Bill Frist (R-Tenn), the star player in this week’s “Justice Sunday” broadcast.

At a formal swearing-in ceremony at the former White House, now called the Big White Cathedral, Rev. Frist said that jettisoning the wall between church and state would benefit all Americans “except those who are anti-faith, and they know who they are.”

He added that by combining the two traditionally separate institutions, sturch would allow congregants to seek salvation and motor vehicle renewals on Sunday without leaving their pews.

As for the longstanding debate over taxing places of worship, Rev. Frist said, “Since sturch is part of the government, it will be collecting taxes, not paying them, thank you very much!”

Elsewhere, newly-engaged actors Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner requested that the media stop calling them “Bennifer,” saying that they preferred to be called “Afgarn.”

http://www.borowitzreport.com/Default.asp