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  • kentuckyklira
    Veteran
    • Sep 2004
    • 1776

    #31
    Originally posted by Dr. Love
    What, you don't like having someone push your buttons?
    Feel free to push, but I´m used to better!
    http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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    • Betty Bush III
      Groupie
      • Jul 2004
      • 50

      #32
      Originally posted by Cathedral



      The difference came when i decided to prove everything and actually study the book, breaking it down and actually proving what i had read.


      What did you read in scripture that proves Gods existense? Is the concept of God coherent enough to begin with? Buddhists have Nirvana and would probably have a difficult time arriving at a resonalble definition of God from which to start. Armed with scripture, St. Anselm had to establish a premise/ definition of God to lead to his existencen of God conclusion. One has to buy the concept to even begin to prove it.

      I don't know how one gets to Gods existence through specific research.
      I'm curious to hear the breakdown.

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #33
        Only through faith.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #34
          Buddhism is a philosophy...

          Nirvana is a philosophic state...

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          • Cathedral
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6621

            #35
            Originally posted by Betty Bush III
            What did you read in scripture that proves Gods existense? Is the concept of God coherent enough to begin with? Buddhists have Nirvana and would probably have a difficult time arriving at a resonalble definition of God from which to start. Armed with scripture, St. Anselm had to establish a premise/ definition of God to lead to his existencen of God conclusion. One has to buy the concept to even begin to prove it.

            I don't know how one gets to Gods existence through specific research.
            I'm curious to hear the breakdown.
            Everything in the scripture proves God's existance, it is his inspired words.
            How do I know and what allowes me to believe that God exists?
            Personal experience and the spiritual intervention that has allowed me to remain in this flesh age long enough to be posting this post.

            I used to be a very dark person, into a lot of really dark things like black mass and summoning the dead. everything about me was different and i was heading down in a spiritual spiral faster than one can imagine....My faith in God was enlightening and it saved my life.
            Personally, I saw evil up close and personal, i experienced it first hand and therefore what saved me from myself was God.

            But it isn't God's existance that i researched, it was the scripture that is by no means being taught in an accurate light today.
            What i meant by proving the scripture was that when i got to something i didn't fully understand i didn't rely on what man has said for centuries, I test the word against itself by by researching it line by line.
            The bible is full of figures of speech and you have to know what the definitions of certain words were in that day to grasp it's full meaning and finally understand what is actually written.
            The bible, when read and understood in it's proper context is not contradictory, though man and Satan really loves the idea that people think that, cause once you do, he has won and there will suddenly be no pressure on you, life will be grand, there is ironically no need for Satan to attack you anymore because you are already his.

            But start seeing the truth, start living by faith and doing that which is pleasing to God and there will be things coming out of the wood work to bring you down.
            I have lost more in my lifetime than most people ever achieve, but at this point, i may falter from time to time, but Satan no longer has a hold on me and life has never been better, there has never been such a calm over me such as i have today.

            God is a personal thing, an experience that once experienced cannot be denied. But you have as much at stake with God as i do because he is no respector of persons, therefore his judgement is righteous and perfectly fair for all of us.

            This post may have you snickering, and right now there is a demon over your shoulder making you think i am crazy, i know because i have been there....But if you begin to study and believe through faith that what God has said and what he has promised to us all through his son, Jesus Christ, you will begin to see the light and the blessings will abound and manifest in your life beyond anything you have ever known.
            But don't take my word for it, prove all things for yourself and hold fast that which is good.

            God doesn't expect us to blindly follow his word, but if you have no faith in him then there is no need to waste your time because he doesn't know you and you will see exactly what you want to see in the bible.
            The word can be made to say and prove whatever you want it to say and prove, millions of churches prove that everyday.
            All i can say is to open your heart and be willing to see things as they are as opposed to what the non-believer wants you to see.
            One who puts his salvation in the hands of any man is a fool in the eyes of God and lost is exactly where that person will remain.

            God Bless, and may you give him a chance to show you his glory as he has for me.

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            • Cathedral
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6621

              #36
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Buddhism is a philosophy...

              Nirvana is a philosophic state...
              And Budd-man is still resting comfortably in his tomb, isn't he?
              He was just a man, like any other, judgement will befall him as well.

              History tells the story, it's all up to the individual to seek everlasting life or submit to Satans plan of spiritual destruction.
              The Lord Jesus Christ rose from his tomb and went to prepare a place for us, he said it and it will come to pass.
              But for those who waver in their faith and works on this earth, Jesus will not know them and it's not his fault that they have turned away from his glory.

              It's an awful big decision and there is clearly more support to deny him than there is to accept him.
              But everyone better know that your support group will be knowhere around when judgement stands in front of you....It will just be you and your Lord.

              Are you ready?

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #37
                Sounds like you've really been lining yourself up to the truth...

                Hang in there brother...


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                • kentuckyklira
                  Veteran
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1776

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Cathedral
                  Personally, I saw evil up close and personal, i experienced it first hand and therefore what saved me from myself was God.
                  You should have changed your drug of choice, or your dealer!
                  http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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                  • Warham
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 14589

                    #39
                    Always a putdown.

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                    • Cathedral
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6621

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Warham
                      Always a putdown.
                      Don't fret it, bro, he can't put me down, it just isn't possible.
                      Just pray for the boy and continue to serve the Lord!

                      Elvis, Thanks, and you be sure and do the same, brother.

                      I'll see y'all in about a month or so, God Bless and Take Care!

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #41
                        God bless, brother.

                        :D

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                        • Betty Bush III
                          Groupie
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 50

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Cathedral
                          Everything in the scripture proves God's existance, it is his inspired words.
                          How do I know and what allowes me to believe that God exists?
                          Personal experience and the spiritual intervention that has allowed me to remain in this flesh age long enough to be posting this post.

                          I used to be a very dark person, into a lot of really dark things like black mass and summoning the dead. everything about me was different and i was heading down in a spiritual spiral faster than one can imagine....My faith in God was enlightening and it saved my life.
                          Personally, I saw evil up close and personal, i experienced it first hand and therefore what saved me from myself was God.

                          But it isn't God's existance that i researched, it was the scripture that is by no means being taught in an accurate light today.
                          What i meant by proving the scripture was that when i got to something i didn't fully understand i didn't rely on what man has said for centuries, I test the word against itself by by researching it line by line.
                          The bible is full of figures of speech and you have to know what the definitions of certain words were in that day to grasp it's full meaning and finally understand what is actually written.
                          The bible, when read and understood in it's proper context is not contradictory, though man and Satan really loves the idea that people think that, cause once you do, he has won and there will suddenly be no pressure on you, life will be grand, there is ironically no need for Satan to attack you anymore because you are already his.

                          But start seeing the truth, start living by faith and doing that which is pleasing to God and there will be things coming out of the wood work to bring you down.
                          I have lost more in my lifetime than most people ever achieve, but at this point, i may falter from time to time, but Satan no longer has a hold on me and life has never been better, there has never been such a calm over me such as i have today.

                          God is a personal thing, an experience that once experienced cannot be denied. But you have as much at stake with God as i do because he is no respector of persons, therefore his judgement is righteous and perfectly fair for all of us.

                          This post may have you snickering, and right now there is a demon over your shoulder making you think i am crazy, i know because i have been there....But if you begin to study and believe through faith that what God has said and what he has promised to us all through his son, Jesus Christ, you will begin to see the light and the blessings will abound and manifest in your life beyond anything you have ever known.
                          But don't take my word for it, prove all things for yourself and hold fast that which is good.

                          God doesn't expect us to blindly follow his word, but if you have no faith in him then there is no need to waste your time because he doesn't know you and you will see exactly what you want to see in the bible.
                          The word can be made to say and prove whatever you want it to say and prove, millions of churches prove that everyday.
                          All i can say is to open your heart and be willing to see things as they are as opposed to what the non-believer wants you to see.
                          One who puts his salvation in the hands of any man is a fool in the eyes of God and lost is exactly where that person will remain.

                          God Bless, and may you give him a chance to show you his glory as he has for me.
                          I'm in no way snickering at your personal relationship with God. I don't doubt it. I am spiritual. I wanted to get a definition of God from your perspective. Is it literal to the scripture etc..

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #43
                            Einstien once mentioned if there is a true faith, it will be the one with the most opposition. Ever notice how much anything Christian offends people these days. Shit, 20 years ago, we could care less about the Christian calendar or saying Merry Christmas. Certain loud voices in our society sure want to wipe anything Christian off the face of the earth.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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