Could Stern's anti-Bush rants shock the vote?

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Yeah, right, whatever dude...

I never said whore, jeez.

What I meant was that the US has the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in the world because of poor sex education due to parents taking a very fundamental line.

A third of strippers in the the UK went to convent school...

Cat I don't want to fight with you because I always make allowances for the shitty hand life has dealt you over the past few years.

And fuck off was meant in a oooh fuck off way not FUCK OFF. Damn internet.

Cheers!

[John Ashcroft]

Spoken like a true foreigner. Sesh, it's quite clear you have some healthy misconceptions of what goes on in the U.S. Also, highest teen pregnancy huh? Sure then. And let's pretend for a second your absurd claim is true, your opinion of the cause is hilarious. Pay attention boy! Our teen pregnancy rate climbed after we started doing things the liberal way (I.E. sex ed in 1st grade, and condom training in 2nd).

You're also missing the big picture. It's not up to the government or some ignorant limey as to how parents raise their children in the U.S. You can sneer all you want, but come tell an American parent on the street of N.Y. how to raise their kid. I triple-dog dare ya. Now, we have decency standards for broadcast media (and have forever). Laws are laws, it's as simple as that. This all started with a titty-flash during halftime. No big deal right? Well, it's a big deal to millions of parents sitting with their children watching the game that night. They weren't expecting it, so it's not a simple matter of "changing the channel". We know where T&A television is. We have skin-a-max, showtime, Playboy, etc. Parents know what to expect from 9pm on when tuning into those channels. But no one expected titty on the Superbowl halftime show. Which brings me right back to my original point. It's not up to MTV or Janet Jackson, or you, or even I to force parents to discuss titties with their children (by flashing them on Network TV) at what we feel is the appropriate time. I know you Euro-weenies are a bunch of follower-sheep, lapping up any propaganda the State throws your way, but Americans don't work that way. We've elected leaders to make laws like the ones dictating decency standards on clear-air radio and TV. Just because you don't like the law doesn't mean you can ignore it (well I guess you can, just be ready for some fines). You psuedo-Commies in Europe certainly understand this, no? Oh... That's right... You're media is government controlled, they make the law on the fly. Whatever they say is appropriate because they are the law. And the government knows best.

[Seshmeister]

It was because it was a black tit you got your pants in a twist.

It was about three frames and she had a nipple cover thing on.

I bet you blindfold babies during breastfeeding.

Cheers!

[Seshmeister]

Teenage pregnancy rates per 1,000

Russia - 101.7
United States - 83.6
Bulgaria - 83.3
England and Wales - 46.9
Australia - 43.7
Sweden - 24.9
Netherlands - 12.2

Source: Alan Guttmacher Institute 2000

[Seshmeister]

Sweden and the Netherlands 'coincidently' have the most extensive sex education programs in schools.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Sweden and the Netherlands 'coincidently' have the most extensive sex education programs in schools.

You can also pick your prostitute out of a store front display window there, kind of like a sex mart.


"Gimme the blonde for now and a redhead to go!" :D

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You can also pick your prostitute out of a store front display window there, kind of like a sex mart.


"Gimme the blonde for now and a redhead to go!" :D

Absolutely.

So you don't get skanky whores hassling people on the street.

Or worse, girls getting hassled by sleezy pricks in cars trying to pick them up just because they are dressed for a rock gig.

I'm all for it!

Cheers!

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
You're media is government controlled, they make the law on the fly. Whatever they say is appropriate because they are the law. And the government knows best.

Nope.

But to a lesser extent than the US our government is media controlled...

[Cathedral]

Sesh, it's no big deal and i understand your point...no fighting on my end just opinions bro...

I'm also not promoting censorship, i am promoting the responsible use of the public airways. If that is what people want then they have that choice, i won't make it for them. I am saying there is a time and a place for everything.
My job is to raise my kid(s) to know the difference between right and wrong, moral or immoral, and it is my job to make sure they know the difference and make the best choice possible.

So far i nailed 1 out of 2 and I had to do it alone. I was young once too and i know all about peer pressure and the way society operates.
I also know that my own parents never gave a thought to what awaits a child out in the world, and i learned the hard way what was proper and improper...it only took 29 years to figure it out. (even longer to fix it)
I don't shelter without explanation and have made keeping open lines of communication a top priority in my branch of the family tree.

Smothering a kid will always backfire, but if you go about it the right way then they will always know that good or bad, they can discuss everything and anything with you.
Some parents wait for these discussions and take the Judgemental, Parental Lecture route which will destroy that trust and that is wrong.
If you listen to them and offer objective advice and allow them to make the choice 9 times out of 10 they will make the right one...And it is a good thing to remember that all people make mistakes, it's the one's who don't recognize those mistakes who are destined to repeat them.
I can only do so much but the battle just gets harder every passing year with the quality of accepted activity in our culture dropping like a lead pipe in a river and there simply has to be a line drawn if for no other reason the simple fact that our children are so impressionable.

There is simply a time and a place for everything and that has become a clouded issue.
When i was a kid two parents didn't even share the same bed on TV, now and in a very short time, we are seeing any sexual activity known to man being dramatised and so far i have rolled with the punches and stayed my course as a parent against the odds.

We have kids killing kids in schools and that is due to a lack of responsibility being handed down by the parents, the FCC not doing their job only makes that job tougher when it comes to what our kids are exposed to in everyday life in the media.

Rule with an iron fist, but listen with a soft ear....It's worked for me in preparing my kids for what awaits them out there. But there is something wrong with the fact that people i don't even know are dictating when i have to have these discussions with my children.

The Super Bowl isn't a good example to me because grown football fans have a tendancy to be more vulgar over a bad play then anything i hear on the tube. But a halftime show becoming a titty show doesn't help matters much.
I didn't even see Janet's boob and i was watching the game, my daughter isn't into football and wasn't even watching at all so that is a non-issue for me.
All i ask for is more responsibility by those who braodcast on the public airways, no more, no less.....But that alone is enough to make me an outcast in society and i say so be it....I will do my job regardless and adjust my tactics to compensate.

Howard Stern types are like kids themselves in the fact that they will push those limits and cross the line more as an attempt to rise against the system. but i have to say that not everyone is adult enough to understand it for what it is and there is the problem for me as a parent.
It used to be that things like they broadcast only happened after 8 pm....Now, it's the sky is the limit and it only serves to pollute the minds of those too young to tell the difference.
It's part of the reason we have a teen pregnancy problem in this country, that and parents who don't do anything in the home to correct their distorted view of what life should be about and what is an acceptable way to live it.

The first step is to keep them from watching television all the time because they won't learn proper values from it at all....unless it's Sesame Street.
What we really need is for the "Shock Jocks" to understand this and place better standards on themselves, then the government would not be involved.
But just like kids, they will try to get away with whatever they can and then cry censorship when they get called on it.

It boils down to a lack of responsibility by those who should be responsible and if they won't be then their Boss/ownwers (the public) has a right to implement them.
It's not about shutting them up, it's about putting it in it's proper context, time, and place.

No more, no less...

[John Ashcroft]

Sesh made a point? Let's see, you said the U.S. has the "highest teen pregnancy rate in the world", then display as proof stats showing us behind Russia. Oh well, facts matter little when liberal's argue.

Bottom line is it doesn't matter what you "enlightened" European socialists think anyway. You don't live here, and if you decide to move here vote in accordance with your beliefs. Don't look down your noses at us "backwards" Americans while us "inbred hicks" are driving markets around the world (how many currencies are tied to the dollar?), have an unprecedented economy ourselves (complete with half your unemployment rate), and an unmatched military. I'd say the United States is doing pretty damn fine without your "enlightenment". What you Commies always fail to offer is an explanation as to just why we should emulate you in any way.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Cathedral
The first step is to keep them from watching television all the time because they won't learn proper values from it at all....unless it's Sesame Street.

I'm not so sure about that...

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[Cathedral]

I said "watching" Seseme Street, not the perverse things people do with the characters in other forums, lol...

Nothing is off limits...and that is my point and you just helped me prove it in a small way.